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US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? Uh-huh...I think you are talking about Herring Scheisskopf...and Jim, *you* don't have a boat. |
US delaying needed supplies?
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote:
Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA (liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown on CNN yesterday. The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from the streets. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
US delaying needed supplies?
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US delaying needed supplies?
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Mass casualty events are always difficult to service properly. I particular in these kinds of situations. One runway, no fuel depot and no practical ATC, the only recourse you have is the military and if there is a military that is capable of getting it on track, it's ours - possibly your country as you have a sealift and air capacity that's pretty good. Air support is all well and good, but you can't transport the quantities needed in a situation like this - it has to come by sea or overland. And that takes time. I was involved in the St. Croix efforts after Hurricane Hugo and can tell you from practical experience that it's difficult without ATC. Give credit to the Devil, KV4FZ did yoeman's work controlling air traffic until the military got there to set up. And even then it wasn't easy. Haiti is three/four times worse than the St. Croix. The other part of the problem is that everybody wants to help even if it's not needed. You have an event like this and suddenly you've got every country in the world with an interest rushing in to "help". That just creates chaos. I know when I was involved in urban search and rescue with my dogs, the one thing they tell you is not to rush to the scene - wait to be called and dispatched. The opposite happened here. I'm not saying that mistakes happen - they do. But soldiers are necessary to the effort for a variety of reasons from distributing aid to providing security - and Haitians need some sort of security. Perhaps it's time for Canadians and Americans to declare Haiti a protectorate and get on with the reconstruction - collectively your government and mine has an interest in maintaining order there. |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? You tell me. Why is Harry Krause here? |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? Uh-huh...I think you are talking about Herring Scheisskopf...and Jim, *you* don't have a boat. When Jim gets a boat, you'll be the first to remind him that he has a boat, no?. Who the Hell is Scheisskoph? Is Hebrew your native tongue? |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: Well the Halifax newspaper is the ONLY news source reporting all of the "good work" Canada is doing. Actually the rest of the world just let's Canada come down so Canada doesn't feel left out. Sort of like when you have a baby brother, and he wants to play with the big boys. Canada.... everyone's little baby brother. Heck, even BBC has no idea that Canada is even participating in the Haitian relief effort. Actually they are there, just not doing anything worthwhile, but it does give the Halifax newspaper something to print besides the high crime rate. Donnie, do you think it is Halifax's severe alcohol abuse problems or just anti-social behavior of Canadians that is the root of your crime wave? Here is a Canadian new source that hits the nail on the head, it seems that even Canadians realize that your piddling effort sucks. "Over the course of the past decade, Canada's leading officials and most prestigious commentators have learned how to approach Haiti in the spirit of cynical power politics and racist condescension (or worse) while maintaining a posture of national self-flattery. With attention again riveted on Haiti following the horrific tragedy inflicted by Tuesday's earthquake, this ugly mixture is once again on display. The need for emergency aid is, without question, urgent [see below for links]. But established patterns of “help” for Haiti need to be overcome if the destructive impact of this catastrophe is to be somehow limited. Scattered self-congratulations can already be heard in Canada's mainstream press (a willing partner, for the most part, in recent Canadian government crimes against Haiti). On Thursday, papers across the country ran editorials on Canadian policy and the relief effort. Under the title “Helping Haiti,” the Calgary Herald editorialized that “Canada's response is not only appropriate, but one to be proud of. … Once again, Canada's humanitarianism and compassion shines brightly.” The Montreal Gazette concurred: “Canadians have, to their credit, been involved in helping Haiti help itself for years.” For its part, the Globe and Mail yet again cast Haiti as the “basket case of the Western hemisphere,” the editorial headline promising that “Today's rescue is just the beginning.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17021 |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: Well the Halifax newspaper is the ONLY news source reporting all of the "good work" Canada is doing. Actually the rest of the world just let's Canada come down so Canada doesn't feel left out. Sort of like when you have a baby brother, and he wants to play with the big boys. Canada.... everyone's little baby brother. Heck, even BBC has no idea that Canada is even participating in the Haitian relief effort. Actually they are there, just not doing anything worthwhile, but it does give the Halifax newspaper something to print besides the high crime rate. Donnie, do you think it is Halifax's severe alcohol abuse problems or just anti-social behavior of Canadians that is the root of your crime wave? Here is a Canadian new source that hits the nail on the head, it seems that even Canadians realize that your piddling effort sucks. "Over the course of the past decade, Canada's leading officials and most prestigious commentators have learned how to approach Haiti in the spirit of cynical power politics and racist condescension (or worse) while maintaining a posture of national self-flattery. With attention again riveted on Haiti following the horrific tragedy inflicted by Tuesday's earthquake, this ugly mixture is once again on display. The need for emergency aid is, without question, urgent [see below for links]. But established patterns of “help” for Haiti need to be overcome if the destructive impact of this catastrophe is to be somehow limited. Scattered self-congratulations can already be heard in Canada's mainstream press (a willing partner, for the most part, in recent Canadian government crimes against Haiti). On Thursday, papers across the country ran editorials on Canadian policy and the relief effort. Under the title “Helping Haiti,” the Calgary Herald editorialized that “Canada's response is not only appropriate, but one to be proud of. … Once again, Canada's humanitarianism and compassion shines brightly.” The Montreal Gazette concurred: “Canadians have, to their credit, been involved in helping Haiti help itself for years.” For its part, the Globe and Mail yet again cast Haiti as the “basket case of the Western hemisphere,” the editorial headline promising that “Today's rescue is just the beginning.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17021 |
US delaying needed supplies?
On Jan 21, 8:46*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA (liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown on CNN yesterday. The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from the streets. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gee, makes you wonder just how in hell those Israelis got those state of the art hospitals set up, doesn't it? |
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