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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:46:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:





All that does is raise the overall tax bar. Eventually the taxes paid by
all will go up
proportionally or consistent with a progressive tax structure.

Taxes for the government is like honey to bears.

and wages paid to the middle class is viewed by companies as an
unnecessary expense.

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:28:32 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:40:09 -0500, Harry
wrote:

The top brackets ought to be paying 49%, and there should be no cap on
earnings subject to social security and medicare taxes.

As long as the top 1% controls 50% of the campaign contributions and
100% of the media you won't see that. They may pass that as the
published top rate but there will be enough tax shelters and loopholes
so they won't actually pay that.
The government has a long rich history of using the tax code to drive
social policy. If you do politically correct things you get tax
breaks, big ones.

and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:46:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:





All that does is raise the overall tax bar. Eventually the taxes paid by
all will go up
proportionally or consistent with a progressive tax structure.

Taxes for the government is like honey to bears.

and wages paid to the middle class is viewed by companies as an
unnecessary expense.


Oh, please.

Isn't that chip on your shoulder starting to get sorta heavy?

Eisboch

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?

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Eisboch wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:46:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


All that does is raise the overall tax bar. Eventually the taxes paid by
all will go up
proportionally or consistent with a progressive tax structure.

Taxes for the government is like honey to bears.
and wages paid to the middle class is viewed by companies as an
unnecessary expense.


Oh, please.

Isn't that chip on your shoulder starting to get sorta heavy?

Eisboch




That's no chip, it's the whole block.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:46:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:





All that does is raise the overall tax bar. Eventually the taxes paid
by
all will go up
proportionally or consistent with a progressive tax structure.

Taxes for the government is like honey to bears.

and wages paid to the middle class is viewed by companies as an
unnecessary expense.


Oh, please.

Isn't that chip on your shoulder starting to get sorta heavy?

Eisboch

It's certainly hyperbole, but it's not far off the mark either. Employees
are an expense that companies would like to minimize whenever possible.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify it, and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:26:38 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?

It's OK for Democrats to bribe each other with taxpayer money, but not
OK for both Democrats and Republicans to recieve corporate money.

Liberal thinking is quite strange.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:42:10 -0500, John H wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:26:38 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people
are the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have
faced far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will
survive, and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed
us. Need I say more?

It's OK for Democrats to bribe each other with taxpayer money, but not
OK for both Democrats and Republicans to recieve corporate money.

Liberal thinking is quite strange.

When a multinational based in China, the communist one, decides to take
an interest in our elections, tell me again how strange Liberal thinking
is.

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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:46:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:





All that does is raise the overall tax bar. Eventually the taxes paid
by
all will go up
proportionally or consistent with a progressive tax structure.

Taxes for the government is like honey to bears.

and wages paid to the middle class is viewed by companies as an
unnecessary expense.


Oh, please.

Isn't that chip on your shoulder starting to get sorta heavy?

Eisboch

It's certainly hyperbole, but it's not far off the mark either. Employees
are an expense that companies would like to minimize whenever possible.

--
Nom=de=Plume




I know that is the conventional wisdom among many but I can tell you for
sure it just isn't
always true. Forget maggots like AIG and the banking industry that leach
off the toils of others.

Think about real businesses.

A key and necessary ingredient to a successful company is growth. Growth is
not possible
without the contributions of qualified and competent employees. Profit
optimization is also key and automation may replace people for some jobs,
but overall the health and future prosperity of a company is largely
dependent on it's employees and growth means more of them. Any honest
business owner knows this. For any product or service there is an ideal $$
in revenue per employee ratio to strive for.
When that ratio is optimized, more employees create more revenues, assuming
market demand. It is good for the business and good for the employees.

That's where the current economic geniuses in Washington have missed the
boat while they have their noses stuck in their textbook reviews of
Keynesian economics. Contrary to popular current opinion, not all business
is bad and growing businesses create jobs.

Eisboch