Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

On 17/01/2010 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/app/...gal-immigrants

Might as well give people the whole story and not just a select liberal
snip. Or maybe if you are so vituious, take one into your home.

I think the idea was illegal immigration. Does that mean you support
illegals in the USA? Steal a boat, go to the USA and compete with the
mafia and cuban gangs?

Maybe the people you do want didn't jump over dead bodies and didn't
kill to get out; and are still there. Some maybe even helping others.

Might want to be selective on who you let in.

On another note, why did not the UN some 20 or 30 years ago intervene
and prevent over population, gang rule, open disobedience to basic law
and order...?? Sure were not effective at popualtion control. Can't
afford to raise the child, have them anyway....

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ha.html

A very long sad story that humanity, like Somalia should be ashamed of.

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:43:38 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/app/...gal-immigrants

Might as well give people the whole story and not just a select liberal
snip. Or maybe if you are so vituious, take one into your home.

I think the idea was illegal immigration. Does that mean you support
illegals in the USA? Steal a boat, go to the USA and compete with the
mafia and cuban gangs?

uh no. the idea was the inability of a thugh from the GOP to
understand that 100,000 people are dead

On 17/01/2010 6:04 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:43:38 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/app/...gal-immigrants

Might as well give people the whole story and not just a select liberal
snip. Or maybe if you are so vituious, take one into your home.

I think the idea was illegal immigration. Does that mean you support
illegals in the USA? Steal a boat, go to the USA and compete with the
mafia and cuban gangs?

uh no. the idea was the inability of a thugh from the GOP to
understand that 100,000 people are dead

If people, the UN or the dems, or the GOP cared, they would have been
spending some serious time with Haiti 15 to 25 years ago in the baby
boom years over populated the area. Chosing to ignore the issue, it
became a diseased over populated island of drugs, gangs, rape, theft,
open disobedience, cop killing, etc. as a routine way of life for over
1/2 of the citizens alive since they were born!

Now we care? Bull****. This is about politicans PR and spending ont he
perception they care. In 6 months they will again ship drugs through
Haiti like nothing happened. More babies born into disease, starvation
and illiteracy. Pick a gang leader and make him presidente.

Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/01/2010 6:04 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:43:38 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/app/...gal-immigrants


Might as well give people the whole story and not just a select liberal
snip. Or maybe if you are so vituious, take one into your home.

I think the idea was illegal immigration. Does that mean you support
illegals in the USA? Steal a boat, go to the USA and compete with the
mafia and cuban gangs?

uh no. the idea was the inability of a thugh from the GOP to
understand that 100,000 people are dead

If people, the UN or the dems, or the GOP cared, they would have been
spending some serious time with Haiti 15 to 25 years ago in the baby
boom years over populated the area. Chosing to ignore the issue, it
became a diseased over populated island of drugs, gangs, rape, theft,
open disobedience, cop killing, etc. as a routine way of life for over
1/2 of the citizens alive since they were born!

Now we care? Bull****. This is about politicans PR and spending ont he
perception they care. In 6 months they will again ship drugs through
Haiti like nothing happened. More babies born into disease, starvation
and illiteracy. Pick a gang leader and make him presidente.


"...open disobedience..."

snerk

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:07:12 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 17/01/2010 6:04 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:43:38 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/app/...lly_speaking/?
tag=illegal-immigrants

Might as well give people the whole story and not just a select
liberal snip. Or maybe if you are so vituious, take one into your
home.

I think the idea was illegal immigration. Does that mean you support
illegals in the USA? Steal a boat, go to the USA and compete with the
mafia and cuban gangs?

uh no. the idea was the inability of a thugh from the GOP to understand
that 100,000 people are dead

If people, the UN or the dems, or the GOP cared, they would have been
spending some serious time with Haiti 15 to 25 years ago in the baby
boom years over populated the area. Chosing to ignore the issue, it
became a diseased over populated island of drugs, gangs, rape, theft,
open disobedience, cop killing, etc. as a routine way of life for over
1/2 of the citizens alive since they were born!

Did you sleep through the '90s? 15 years ago, Clinton reinstated
Aristide at the point of a gun. During that time, the UN had a
stabilization and peacekeeping force on the ground. Haiti is a deeply
troubled country, but under Preval it was making some progress towards
normalcy. This earthquake, obviously, will be a major setback.

Now we care? Bull****. This is about politicans PR and spending ont he
perception they care. In 6 months they will again ship drugs through
Haiti like nothing happened. More babies born into disease, starvation
and illiteracy. Pick a gang leader and make him presidente.

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:44:32 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:07:12 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 17/01/2010 6:04 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:43:38 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/app/...lly_speaking/?
tag=illegal-immigrants

Might as well give people the whole story and not just a select
liberal snip. Or maybe if you are so vituious, take one into your
home.

I think the idea was illegal immigration. Does that mean you support
illegals in the USA? Steal a boat, go to the USA and compete with the
mafia and cuban gangs?

uh no. the idea was the inability of a thugh from the GOP to understand
that 100,000 people are dead

If people, the UN or the dems, or the GOP cared, they would have been
spending some serious time with Haiti 15 to 25 years ago in the baby
boom years over populated the area. Chosing to ignore the issue, it
became a diseased over populated island of drugs, gangs, rape, theft,
open disobedience, cop killing, etc. as a routine way of life for over
1/2 of the citizens alive since they were born!

Did you sleep through the '90s? 15 years ago, Clinton reinstated
Aristide at the point of a gun. During that time, the UN had a
stabilization and peacekeeping force on the ground. Haiti is a deeply
troubled country, but under Preval it was making some progress towards
normalcy. This earthquake, obviously, will be a major setback.

Not to mention Pat Robertson's proclamation. That'll prevent hundreds
of thousands of followers of Jesus from making donations or
volunteering to help.... NOT!!!

The greedy little *******s weren't going to do anything anyway...

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:07:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 6:04 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:43:38 -0700,


uh no. the idea was the inability of a thugh from the GOP to
understand that 100,000 people are dead

If people, the UN or the dems, or the GOP cared, they would have been
spending some serious time with Haiti 15 to 25 years ago in the baby
boom years over populated the area. Chosing to ignore the issue, it
became a diseased over populated island of drugs, gangs, rape, theft,
open disobedience, cop killing, etc. as a routine way of life for over
1/2 of the citizens alive since they were born!

Now we care? Bull****. This is about politicans PR and spending ont he
perception they care. In 6 months they will again ship drugs through
Haiti like nothing happened. More babies born into disease, starvation
and illiteracy. Pick a gang leader and make him presidente.

hard to disagree here. jeffrey sachs, in the NY times, has a good
essay on what's needed to reform haiti.

we'll see if anyone's listening

bpuharic wrote:
Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).
It is probably better to spend money rescuing Haiti than to bring them
here longterm or permanent residents.
The problem I see is finding Haitians to develop the Haitian economy.
They have a lot of resources but they have not moved beyond a third
world economy.
I believe it is because there are too many Haitians for their easily
utilized resource.
They have not had any effective leadership.
It seems from any report over the decades that small gangs etc run the
country.
I don't see how we can show these folks how to take care, of themselves.
It is going to take outside Leadership and economic enterprise.
It's a lot closer to Haiti than to China.

On 17/01/2010 6:28 PM, lil abner wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
Illegal immigrants from Haiti have no reason to fear deportation, but
if they are deported, Haiti is in great need of relief workers, and
many of them could be a big help to their fellow Haitians," -
Congressman Steve King (R-IA).
It is probably better to spend money rescuing Haiti than to bring them
here longterm or permanent residents.
The problem I see is finding Haitians to develop the Haitian economy.
They have a lot of resources but they have not moved beyond a third
world economy.
I believe it is because there are too many Haitians for their easily
utilized resource.
They have not had any effective leadership.
It seems from any report over the decades that small gangs etc run the
country.
I don't see how we can show these folks how to take care, of themselves.
It is going to take outside Leadership and economic enterprise.
It's a lot closer to Haiti than to China.

This is a humanitarian disaster that started decades ago. This we agree.

Assuming 1/2 the land is suitable for human habitation which may be
wildly optimistic, as you can't park your home on the waters edge
litterally, the population density is about 700 per sq. kilometer. Or
about 1100 people per square mile. The land is stripped for what is
useable and food is imported as there is no where to grow what they need
for self sufficiency.

With that level of over population, not really much one can do for the
economy either. Building earth quake resistant structures takes space,
100 square feet per family isn't going to do. And who pays? Will they
work or are they a herd of squaters?

Not sure there is any other choice. But persents a problem as most of
the population, 80% have below average skills in basic reading, have
never known a life without gang rule, servatude and bound to be a
problem in the NA society.

But forced birth control is in order here, it is insane to let them
breed children into desperation, starvation, disease, illiteracy...not
humane at all and absolutely irresponsible. They need a heavy handed
benevolant dictator that will have to do some nasty stuff to bring this
part of the world into the 21st century. Trouble is there are not that
many good dictators.

Nasty problem.