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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:10:19 -0500, "H :)
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Canuck57 wrote:



If I move to south or central America, get that cheap 15% foreign
investment tax rate.


Move to Venezuela or Chile. I'll contribute $1.00 American to your
move.
Take herringcrap with you.


i'll see your dollar and raise you a buck to get rid of him...


I'll kick in $100, since it'll require a HAZMAT team.



Yawn...

You are a one-trick pony.


Poor baby...


Yes, you are.


You're pathetic.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 17/01/2010 10:46 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

Is that all you have to say coming from a country where "me and my
friend"
makes it prime time on every channel and the government! "Me and
Obama..."

?? Just because a few idiots watch TV or listen to the radio and think
it's
therefore got to be true??

Ok, Internet then. Because I actually watch very little TV. And what I
do is recorded, FF is the most often used butten when I do. Too many ads
and liberal media pasturized to the politicially correct message of the
day.

We are more managed than we collectively realize.

LOL. My spelling is crap, but given I don't rely on spell check, don't
do
too bad. And if all you have to fight with is spelling, you lose.

So are you a gender bender? (nom de plume).

It's called lack of education. But, in your case, I doubt it would help
much.

Oh, and you're a jerk. Did I mention that?

So why do you hide your gender?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pen_name (nom de plume is french of the
same)


Hide my gender???? I've posted my picture. Feel free to not believe I'm
female.

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:06:54 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 18/01/2010 4:23 AM, bpuharic wrote:
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got proof? because we have an example that it could have gotten ALOT
worse than it did

unemployment in the '29 crash was 25%. is that what you recommend?

Probably too late but would try:

- end the war. leave a monolyth. "Leave us all in peace or this is
ground zero." Let them think about it and start quietly making low
yield neutron types just in case.

i favor leaving iraq ASAP. afghanistan is a necessary war since they
attacked us

- cut governemtn spending, litterally in 1/2 in 8 months or less with
special emphasis on waste of all kinds. File a bogus expense report
will be your last.

can't cut govt spending. that's the whole point. the rich have
structured the economy so the middle class has no discretionary
spending power. we're living paycheck to paycheck. the only
institution left that can bolster the economy is the govt

- big reduction of income taxes targeted right square at the middle
class. They will wonder if their employer screwed up and paid them too
much.

now THIS might work. and in our society it would never go.
conservatives have NEVER proposed a middle class tax cut. reagan's
philosophy was the laffer curve...supply side economics...cut taxes
for the rich and all would be fine.

we see it continuing today in the GO candidate for senator in MA...his
programs consists of tax cuts for business.

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:16:25 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 18/01/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:

and middle class incomes in europe are on a par with those in the US
and have kept pace with ours as well over the last 30 years. we just
dont have the safety net they do, having chosen, instead, to insulate
the rich from the results of their greed.

Gross per hour worked, I would agree. Many do make less, but the time
off they get is fantastic.

In net after taxes and spending power, utter bull****. And this is what
counts. How much is left after the essentials.

and how much is left here when you factor in healthcare costs which
are growing faster than they are in europe? what about healthcare for
the 10% unemployed? in europe they have healthcare. here we dont


I have lived in the UK, Norway, USA and Canada. I don't even need to
look this up. You are blowing this one out of your arse.

fine. when you give up your healthcare for you and your kids you let
me know, OK?

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:28:53 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 7:53 PM, bpuharic wrote:

since keynesianism has nothing to do with socialism, i suggest you
adjust your lobster bib and just nod off again, like a good
conservative.

So explain that. Government in socialism share keynesianism in that the
government controls the market currencies, rates, etc.

fine. you go show me where keynes said the govt should control
companies, OK? and if the govt controls CURRENCIES that's MONETARISM
of milton friedman, NOT fiscal policies of keynes


And we have seen how well the government does with this in (old) USSR
and in the US/Canada where government HAS meddled in the markets and
blew it up on cheap debt.

again and again you show you know zip. supply side economics is milton
friedman, not keynes.


What makes you liberal idiots think governemtn isn't greedy like a
corporation or investor? Greed defines us a human beings, and ANY time
ANY organization gets exclusive monopolies on ANYTHING the people
SUFFER. For government it is statism and power without competition,
does not mater what you call it, keynesianism, statism, socialism...

conservatives keep feeding money to the rich. how much gets down to
the middle class is irrelevant. middle class incomes have gone NOWHERE
in 30 years, yet the income of the richest 1% has skyrocketed in the
last 10 years.

so how's that working out for the middle class, courtesy of the right?
the middle class pays all the bills

the rich get all the tax breaks AND all the income from increases in
productiivty

THEN the conservatives tell us the middle class has it too soft and we
need to give MORE money to the rich because they're suffering so much


It also flops on government knows best. Any time _any_ organizattion,
private or not gets too much power the middle class gets the screw

and how's the middle class doing under radical free market socialism
for the rich in this country? we all doing OK?

America is no longer the leading free market in the world. Chinese are
now better at this than Americans who now embrace bailouts, burnouts,
Omama-mama marxist attitudes. Sore losers.

obama has'nt been president for 8 years. you keep pretending he has.

conservative free market fundamentalism has run the US for the last 30
years. obama was 18 years old when reagan was president.

newsflash my right wing friend: obama's only been president for 1
year.


Obama writes history now, but he will not last forever.

and conservatives will find a way to blame obama for the 29 market
crash

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On Jan 19, 1:34*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:10:19 -0500, "H :)
wrote:

Canuck57 wrote:

If I move to south or central America, get that cheap 15% foreign
investment tax rate.

Move to Venezuela or Chile. I'll contribute $1.00 American to your
move.
Take herringcrap with you.

i'll see your dollar and raise you a buck to get rid of *him...

I'll kick in $100, since it'll require a HAZMAT team.

Yawn...

You are a one-trick pony.

Poor baby...

Yes, you are.

You're pathetic.

--
Nom=de=Plume

No original thought this morning, D'Plume?

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On 19/01/2010 5:04 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:13:06 -0800, wrote:


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On 18/01/2010 4:23 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:42:37 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 7:48 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:15:12 -0700,


In fact, Japan is teatering on bankruptcy as a country. The Yen
currency is in real danger of colapse (rapid devaluation). Watching
this closely as Japan is bigger than Iceland, and the impacts of a
major
country like Japan getting into serious default could be next.



uh no. the hole was already dug by the conservative fundamentalist
deregulators and the fairy tales of CDO's that they wrote. they wrote
the checks.

we're now paying for them

You are really hopeless. If you are in debt to a point of insolvancy
you:

1) Get a new credit card and spend even more than ever before. Spend
out of debt liberal-democrat theory. It will fail, you lose everything.

or you could do nothing and let a 2nd 1929 happen. is that your
recommendation?

2) Do nothing. GOP method. Last a little longer than 1) but the result
is the same if enough time elapses.

got proof? because we have an example that it could have gotten ALOT
worse than it did

unemployment in the '29 crash was 25%. is that what you recommend?

Probably too late but would try:

- end the war. leave a monolyth. "Leave us all in peace or this is ground
zero." Let them think about it and start quietly making low yield neutron
types just in case.
- cut governemtn spending, litterally in 1/2 in 8 months or less with
special emphasis on waste of all kinds. File a bogus expense report will
be your last.
- big reduction of income taxes targeted right square at the middle class.
They will wonder if their employer screwed up and paid them too much.
- slam some ass holes like Wagoner in jail under SOX for false financials
from GM for starters. New laws on bankruptcy including claw backs going
back 6 years for Carlyle and Cererus racketeering.
- any bank needing further aid is automatically bankrupt. Insure the
insured and firesale the idiots. Share holders, executives, board members
all fire with cause and without serverance, no pension etc. If so much as
a management expense report wrong, they will be persecuted.
- GM has 90 days to turn profit or die. Fire sale them.
- tell the world that America is about honor, itegrity, properity and
economic freedom is included.
- any country (including China) that has import taxes on NA goods, we
reciprocate in lock step. They add tarifs, we add tarifs. They remove
them, we remove them. Want free trade, cut the bull****.

Behind closed doors I would:

- call in the Saudis, oil goes cheap to free market values or we fund the
next Sadam to unite the middle east as we confiscate your assets. Stop the
extortion now or we will. If we don't nuke you first. And about Osama
Bin Laden, I expect his head delivered. Bet the diplomate ****s himself
after I rag on him.
- US navy changes their testing and training grounds to the Somaila coast.
Tehy provide the targets, we provide the solution and get free training.
- Pakistan, give us Osama Bin Laden. You don't want to know what will
happen if you don't.
- Palistine, want a fight? Go ahead and make my day. Next time is a race
between if the Israelis get you first or we do. And we will not be taking
prisoners, you move out or we will shot, nuke or whatever we want to shake
your asses fast and hard.

Any military action will be in like a tornado, move in, destroy the
targets with prejudice and leave. Collateral, sleeping with and feeding
the enemy is no longer an excuse.

On UN bitching, find a new sponsor and a new home or shut the **** up. I
can have the extradition papers ready in 30 minutes if need be.

But like JFK, I would be shot first. Organized criminals and drugs would
be next after the dust settles. And I will make Bush Sr. look like a
pansy. Prosecutors can try people in absentia if they don't show on the
warrants. Then we send hit squads to carry out the execution, mafia
style. Not even going to bother the locals, unless of course they are
feeding and sleeping with them.


I like the way you think. It may be a tad soft for the hard right though
g.

--Mike


He is on the soft side, wouldn't you say. I'd give GM only about 60
days. Other than that, not bad. Specify a time period for Osama. Can't
add much.

Oh, leave the prisoners in Gitmo. Increase the size of the place and
take out the air conditioning.

Agreed on Gitmo. Even add to it.

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On 19/01/2010 4:18 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:16:25 -0700,
wrote:

On 18/01/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:

and middle class incomes in europe are on a par with those in the US
and have kept pace with ours as well over the last 30 years. we just
dont have the safety net they do, having chosen, instead, to insulate
the rich from the results of their greed.

Gross per hour worked, I would agree. Many do make less, but the time
off they get is fantastic.

In net after taxes and spending power, utter bull****. And this is what
counts. How much is left after the essentials.

and how much is left here when you factor in healthcare costs which
are growing faster than they are in europe? what about healthcare for
the 10% unemployed? in europe they have healthcare. here we dont

Yhe reason is simple, US has technology to add and people want it. And
it will cost. People want it, who the hell are we to say they can't
have it if they are willing to pay for it?

In Canada, We have a fantasic health care system, if you survive the
wait and can find a family doctor to get in line. And the differential
in taxes, we should blow you away but do not. People wait months for a
MRI and we are much likely less to get it prescribed.

And if you think foreign health care in places like the UK, Canada etc.
are better, get sick and try it. Your American coverage is good here
as government loves the income. How many Americans come to Canada for
anything in a government facility? For many Americans Mayo is further
away too.

I have lived in the UK, Norway, USA and Canada. I don't even need to
look this up. You are blowing this one out of your arse.

fine. when you give up your healthcare for you and your kids you let
me know, OK?

No one is giving up anything, unless it is the American right to choose.
After all, Obama wants your money and a stright up tax grab isn't
going to cut it. He is using health care as an excuse for more
taxation. That is how the liberals work it. Maximizing the return off
the sheep.

Look at it this way:

Income - taxes + health care. The biggeg the result at the end the better.

Treat health care like taxes but it goes to a different destination.
Then, the US looks pretty damed good. Better services are bonus.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 17/01/2010 10:46 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

Is that all you have to say coming from a country where "me and my
friend"
makes it prime time on every channel and the government! "Me and
Obama..."
?? Just because a few idiots watch TV or listen to the radio and think
it's
therefore got to be true??
Ok, Internet then. Because I actually watch very little TV. And what I
do is recorded, FF is the most often used butten when I do. Too many ads
and liberal media pasturized to the politicially correct message of the
day.

We are more managed than we collectively realize.

LOL. My spelling is crap, but given I don't rely on spell check, don't
do
too bad. And if all you have to fight with is spelling, you lose.

So are you a gender bender? (nom de plume).
It's called lack of education. But, in your case, I doubt it would help
much.

Oh, and you're a jerk. Did I mention that?
So why do you hide your gender?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pen_name (nom de plume is french of the
same)


Hide my gender???? I've posted my picture. Feel free to not believe I'm
female.

Male, female, sock puppet? Who knows. Nothing feminine about that
picture. Lots of guys sport long hair.

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On 19/01/2010 4:23 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:28:53 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 7:53 PM, bpuharic wrote:

since keynesianism has nothing to do with socialism, i suggest you
adjust your lobster bib and just nod off again, like a good
conservative.

So explain that. Government in socialism share keynesianism in that the
government controls the market currencies, rates, etc.

fine. you go show me where keynes said the govt should control
companies, OK? and if the govt controls CURRENCIES that's MONETARISM
of milton friedman, NOT fiscal policies of keynes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics

Justification for statism and interferance. Who says government is
always meddling for the right reasons? I submit keynesian supporters
today are using it as an excuse for preservation of statism and not for
the good f the people.

I don't agree with the inflation part of keynesianism and believe more
main stream in that inflation is caused by government currency
manipulation and excessive money float. Government falls short on
revenue and padds it with debt and money creation, the later comes in as
inflation later on.

Governmetn could buy back the currency and cancel it but never has done
so, feeding inflation into perpetuity. It is deliberate. If I can
borrow money at 1% and get %2 inflation I am guaranteed to screw others
for wealth, modern day government practice.

And we have seen how well the government does with this in (old) USSR
and in the US/Canada where government HAS meddled in the markets and
blew it up on cheap debt.

again and again you show you know zip. supply side economics is milton
friedman, not keynes.


What makes you liberal idiots think governemtn isn't greedy like a
corporation or investor? Greed defines us a human beings, and ANY time
ANY organization gets exclusive monopolies on ANYTHING the people
SUFFER. For government it is statism and power without competition,
does not mater what you call it, keynesianism, statism, socialism...

conservatives keep feeding money to the rich. how much gets down to
the middle class is irrelevant. middle class incomes have gone NOWHERE
in 30 years, yet the income of the richest 1% has skyrocketed in the
last 10 years.

so how's that working out for the middle class, courtesy of the right?
the middle class pays all the bills

The right isn't running the country, the left is. Reagan was right,
Obama is left.

the rich get all the tax breaks AND all the income from increases in
productiivty

Rich, suck in the liberal BS. If you simple confiscated all the
earnings of the top 2% of the "rich" it would not make much of a dent in
Obama/congress debt spend.

The back bone of taxation is the middle class. They fail, the main feed
of government cash is gone.

And as I suggested, target the middle class with the tax reductions and
make it big enough they will notice big time. None of this 1 or 2%
crap, 20 or 30%.

THEN the conservatives tell us the middle class has it too soft and we
need to give MORE money to the rich because they're suffering so much

You mush surly like the MAD principle. Screw the middle class and screw
America. This is what this is really all about. Liberalism screwed up
in banking and debt, now the middle class pay for it. Trouble is, it is
shutting down the economy as people spend less.

All the government has to do is leave people with more of their own
money and live inside their revenue streams. But liberals hate that as
it means less statism. Governmetn is in reality at war wih it's people.
Statism versus economic freedom.