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BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 03:54 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?





H :>) K January 16th 10 03:57 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 04:13 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months. I
could take a few months off then go find another job. My skills are in
demand.

I am Tosk January 16th 10 04:14 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.


actually it excludes union members.


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


Chicago politics at it's best. Reward those who support you, and slap
down anybody else as hard as you can...

I am Tosk January 16th 10 04:15 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


What a bunch of crap... It's all revenge style politics. Remember, if
you give the Unions a break, the rest of us will pay more...

H :>) K January 16th 10 04:19 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


What a bunch of crap... It's all revenge style politics. Remember, if
you give the Unions a break, the rest of us will pay more...


This from an unemployable mook who hasn't had a real job in decades?

H :>) K January 16th 10 04:25 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
BAR wrote:
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year


I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months. I
could take a few months off then go find another job. My skills are in
demand.


You had a lousy negotiator.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 04:46 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months. I
could take a few months off then go find another job. My skills are in
demand.


You had a lousy negotiator.


Children need protection, men don't.



I is Toosh January 16th 10 04:48 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:57:55 -0500, H :) K wrote:

BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


His space is dedicated to a new floor lamp. Production is expected to
increase at a steady rate from now on.


BAR[_4_] January 16th 10 04:54 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.



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