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C. Mor Butts January 15th 10 01:15 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.

http://workinprogress.firedoglake.co...-bad-bad-idea/

HK[_5_] January 15th 10 01:18 PM

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C. Mor Butts wrote:
The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a



Thanks for noticing, Tom. Now...go back into hibernation.

bpuharic January 15th 10 11:01 PM

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On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.


actually it excludes union members.

lil abner January 16th 10 03:34 AM

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C. Mor Butts wrote:
The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.

http://workinprogress.firedoglake.co...-bad-bad-idea/

It is all get eveninsm
Union members are not the only ones with good reasonable health care
plans. Premiums are paid for the extent of the coverage.
Nobody gets a freebie. It is part of their pay or compensation.
So the writers of this legislation want to cut their compensation by
making them pay a sin tax because they have good health coverage.
How many thousands in a pay cut/ tax will mollify the socialists??
If they can't make their mortgage payments because, of it will that
satisfy them?
They are not talking about five dollars a week.
Their Constituents will get free health care and the ones with
fair/good/excellent health care will pay a lot more or they can give up
the Insurance and obtain lesser coverage and pay for it and pay a lot
more for inferior coverage. Either way people with whatever they deem
Cadillac Coverage will suffer. The ultra Rich or whatever they want to
target won't be affected, in the least.
Many most with formerly good coverage are having it taken away by the
ultra Rich of Wall Street. They are gutting their American Employees
compensation/health care to fill their Swiss bank accounts.

D.Duck[_5_] January 16th 10 07:18 AM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.


actually it excludes union members.


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

thunder January 16th 10 12:20 PM

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.

HK[_5_] January 16th 10 12:34 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


Correct, Mr. T, and it also depends upon the employment sector. The
scenario you describe most closely fits industrial and service sector
employees, who indeed gave up significant pay raises in order to get
better health care and sometimes pension benefits. In most of the
construction unions, the $$$ negotiations are over the hourly rate,
which the union members then decide how to divvy up between health care,
pension, savings accounts and net paycheck. In the last six or eight
years, the hourly rates have been pretty flat, but the amounts coming
out of that hourly rate for health care have skyrocketed.

HK[_5_] January 16th 10 02:20 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
lil abner wrote:
C. Mor Butts wrote:
The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.

http://workinprogress.firedoglake.co...-bad-bad-idea/

It is all get eveninsm
Union members are not the only ones with good reasonable health care
plans. Premiums are paid for the extent of the coverage.
Nobody gets a freebie. It is part of their pay or compensation.
So the writers of this legislation want to cut their compensation by
making them pay a sin tax because they have good health coverage.
How many thousands in a pay cut/ tax will mollify the socialists??
If they can't make their mortgage payments because, of it will that
satisfy them?
They are not talking about five dollars a week.
Their Constituents will get free health care and the ones with
fair/good/excellent health care will pay a lot more or they can give up
the Insurance and obtain lesser coverage and pay for it and pay a lot
more for inferior coverage. Either way people with whatever they deem
Cadillac Coverage will suffer. The ultra Rich or whatever they want to
target won't be affected, in the least.
Many most with formerly good coverage are having it taken away by the
ultra Rich of Wall Street. They are gutting their American Employees
compensation/health care to fill their Swiss bank accounts.


That is how equality works under socialism.

HK[_5_] January 16th 10 02:23 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.


actually it excludes union members.


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

YKW doesn't want it going into effect on his watch. Apparently he is
thinking on buying reelection.

HK[_5_] January 16th 10 02:26 PM

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HK wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they
would be paying an overall higher percentage than other working
stiffs. Labor contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present
ones will have expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


Correct, Mr. T, and it also depends upon the employment sector. The
scenario you describe most closely fits industrial and service sector
employees, who indeed gave up significant pay raises in order to get
better health care and sometimes pension benefits. In most of the
construction unions, the $$$ negotiations are over the hourly rate,
which the union members then decide how to divvy up between health care,
pension, savings accounts and net paycheck. In the last six or eight
years, the hourly rates have been pretty flat, but the amounts coming
out of that hourly rate for health care have skyrocketed.


Po babies. It ain't just the union lackies that have seen their
lifestyles erode.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 03:54 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?





H :>) K January 16th 10 03:57 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 04:13 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months. I
could take a few months off then go find another job. My skills are in
demand.

I am Tosk January 16th 10 04:14 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.


actually it excludes union members.


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


Chicago politics at it's best. Reward those who support you, and slap
down anybody else as hard as you can...

I am Tosk January 16th 10 04:15 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


What a bunch of crap... It's all revenge style politics. Remember, if
you give the Unions a break, the rest of us will pay more...

H :>) K January 16th 10 04:19 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


What a bunch of crap... It's all revenge style politics. Remember, if
you give the Unions a break, the rest of us will pay more...


This from an unemployable mook who hasn't had a real job in decades?

H :>) K January 16th 10 04:25 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
BAR wrote:
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year


I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months. I
could take a few months off then go find another job. My skills are in
demand.


You had a lousy negotiator.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 04:46 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months. I
could take a few months off then go find another job. My skills are in
demand.


You had a lousy negotiator.


Children need protection, men don't.



I is Toosh January 16th 10 04:48 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:57:55 -0500, H :) K wrote:

BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


His space is dedicated to a new floor lamp. Production is expected to
increase at a steady rate from now on.


BAR[_4_] January 16th 10 04:54 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year



I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


H :>) K January 16th 10 05:25 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 05:30 PM

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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.


The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.


Herring can take care of the Army golf course.

I am Tosk January 16th 10 05:31 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?


Did your company support Obama with millions in campaign time and
money??

Jim January 16th 10 05:34 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On 1/16/2010 12:31 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...

In inet,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?


Did your company support Obama with millions in campaign time and
money??


I, flajim, am in charge of that.

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 05:39 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.


The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?


Did your company support Obama with millions in campaign time and
money??


No. But we do let the government buy our products.

John H[_12_] January 16th 10 06:24 PM

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.


Herring can take care of the Army golf course.


I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.
--

John H

BAR[_2_] January 16th 10 06:42 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.


Herring can take care of the Army golf course.


I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.


I need to do a better job of taking my vacation, personal and floating
holidays this year. If possible I would like another crack at the MOH
course, in warmer weather.

John H[_12_] January 16th 10 07:01 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:42:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.


I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.


I need to do a better job of taking my vacation, personal and floating
holidays this year. If possible I would like another crack at the MOH
course, in warmer weather.


Any time you can get a day, with a few day's notice.
--

John H

John H[_12_] January 16th 10 07:02 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:42:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.


I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.


I need to do a better job of taking my vacation, personal and floating
holidays this year. If possible I would like another crack at the MOH
course, in warmer weather.


And, playing in the 40's, as long as you're walking, is very
comfortable, unless the wind is bad.
--

John H

bpuharic January 17th 10 01:03 AM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.


actually it excludes union members.


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant

D.Duck[_5_] January 17th 10 02:08 AM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.

Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant



Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members?

bpuharic January 17th 10 12:27 PM

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?


of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant



Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members



those tooo

D.Duck[_5_] January 17th 10 12:46 PM

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bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant


Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members



those tooo


The meaning of your answer escapes me.

HK[_5_] January 17th 10 12:59 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports,
contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason
except politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant

Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members



those tooo


The meaning of your answer escapes me.


Yet another contribution from Duck that is totally devoid of content,
other than the snipe.

bpuharic January 17th 10 01:04 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:46:42 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant

Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members



those tooo


The meaning of your answer escapes me.


a spelling joke. see the 3 o's in 'tooo'?


H :>) K January 17th 10 01:14 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:46:42 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant
Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members

those tooo

The meaning of your answer escapes me.


a spelling joke. see the 3 o's in 'tooo'?


In case you haven't guessed, "Dick the Duck" is only interested in
sniping at non-conservatives who post here.

Harry Krause[_2_] January 17th 10 01:21 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts

wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports,
contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason
except politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant

Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members


those tooo


The meaning of your answer escapes me.


Yet another contribution from Duck that is totally devoid of content,
other than the snipe.


I know, that was stupid of me to say, especially since my post was
totally devoid of content, except for the snipe.

bpuharic January 17th 10 03:53 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:14:24 -0500, "H :) K"
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:




a spelling joke. see the 3 o's in 'tooo'?


In case you haven't guessed, "Dick the Duck" is only interested in
sniping at non-conservatives who post here.


yeah he does seem to be part of the herd

Harry Krause[_2_] January 17th 10 06:50 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
D.Duck wrote:
H :) K wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
H :) K wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts

wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports,
contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health
plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why
union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational
reason except politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the
question is
irrelevant

Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members


those tooo

The meaning of your answer escapes me.

Yet another contribution from Duck that is totally devoid of
content, other than the snipe.


My question was pointed at "there are no union members in the US so
the question is irrelevant".

If that's a "snipe" in your book, so be it.

Why not start a boating thread with a topic that indicates you know
something about the subject and a narrative that offers up something
useful.

Doing so might start a worthwhile discussion.


I don't have to brag about my boat. And I'm sure I put more hours in
it in one month that you do in yours for the year.





I didn't ask you to post *anything* about *your* boat.

Just more sniping and insulting on your part. Nothing new from you.
You're just here to snipe at those who disagree with you politically.



That from the king of the nastiest insults imaginable.


You little POS, you are nothing more than dog **** on the bottom of my
shoe. If it was legal, I would push you in front of a bus, just to
save the rest of humanity from having to hear you speak.

It is people like you and your nasty comments which has ruined rec.boats
for good folks such as myself.

John H[_12_] January 17th 10 07:00 PM

Dems Sucker Punch Mass Union Members
 
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:43:15 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

H :) K wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
H :) K wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:08:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts

wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports,
contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health
plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.
actually it excludes union members.
Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational
reason except politics?
of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the
question is
irrelevant

Maybe no "uniion" members. What about "union" members


those tooo

The meaning of your answer escapes me.

Yet another contribution from Duck that is totally devoid of
content, other than the snipe.


My question was pointed at "there are no union members in the US so
the question is irrelevant".

If that's a "snipe" in your book, so be it.

Why not start a boating thread with a topic that indicates you know
something about the subject and a narrative that offers up something
useful.

Doing so might start a worthwhile discussion.


I don't have to brag about my boat. And I'm sure I put more hours in
it in one month that you do in yours for the year.





I didn't ask you to post *anything* about *your* boat.

Just more sniping and insulting on your part. Nothing new from you.
You're just here to snipe at those who disagree with you politically.



That from the king of the nastiest insults imaginable.


....who can see no hypocrisy whatsoever in his statement.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


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