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lil abner January 30th 10 06:35 PM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
Lake Guy wrote:
Dave Moorman wrote:

The canal is a major transportation asset, also, and I can
understand why people want to keep it open.


Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal?

A set of doors and locks that prevents water flowing from the canal into
Lake Michigan but still allows ships to pass through. A set of pumps
and filters or screens to prevent the fish from moving through the locks
when water is moved between them.

Global business doesn't want to.

Bruce[_13_] January 31st 10 03:32 AM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
Lake Guy wrote:
Dave Moorman wrote:


The canal is a major transportation asset, also, and I can
understand why people want to keep it open.

Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal?

A set of doors and locks that prevents water flowing from the canal into
Lake Michigan but still allows ships to pass through. A set of pumps
and filters or screens to prevent the fish from moving through the locks
when water is moved between them.

They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not that
simple.

Lake Guy January 31st 10 03:19 PM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
Bruce wrote:

Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal?


They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not
that simple.


Where are these locks?

They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put
them in the locks (if these locks really do exist).

When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you
turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side
part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the
lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the
lake-side door.

If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber,
you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them
one way or another.

Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase
electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them.

Canuck57[_9_] January 31st 10 04:01 PM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
On 31/01/2010 8:19 AM, Lake Guy wrote:
Bruce wrote:

Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal?


They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not
that simple.


Where are these locks?

They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put
them in the locks (if these locks really do exist).

When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you
turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side
part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the
lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the
lake-side door.

If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber,
you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them
one way or another.

Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase
electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them.


It just takes one pair of mating capable to get through.

I wonder if they got through years ago already, 10 years ago used to see
fish looking pretty close to the same up at Port Washington right along
on the weir. Could never catch them with hook and line as they never
bit on anything, just lazy sucking in the water. Which also fits the
profile of these fish. Some were huge too, estimate 15 pounds and up.

lil abner January 31st 10 10:51 PM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
Canuck57 wrote:
On 31/01/2010 8:19 AM, Lake Guy wrote:
Bruce wrote:

Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal?


They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not
that simple.


Where are these locks?

They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put
them in the locks (if these locks really do exist).

When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you
turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side
part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the
lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the
lake-side door.

If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber,
you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them
one way or another.

Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase
electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them.


It just takes one pair of mating capable to get through.

I wonder if they got through years ago already, 10 years ago used to see
fish looking pretty close to the same up at Port Washington right along
on the weir. Could never catch them with hook and line as they never
bit on anything, just lazy sucking in the water. Which also fits the
profile of these fish. Some were huge too, estimate 15 pounds and up.

Big Business/Washington don't consider that the special interest of
Global shippers will get over blocking the Canal and River but the Great
Lakes and the whole of North America will never get over introduction of
the Asian Carp into the Great Lakes.
The Channel must be blocked. If it takes poisoning the entire
Mississsippi Drainage it or another effective program must be done.

Bruce[_14_] February 1st 10 02:24 AM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
Lake Guy wrote:
Bruce wrote:


Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal?


They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not
that simple.

Where are these locks?

They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put
them in the locks (if these locks really do exist).

When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you
turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side
part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the
lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the
lake-side door.

If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber,
you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them
one way or another.

Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase
electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them.

There are 15 locks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinoi...Michigan_Canal



Tim February 1st 10 02:48 PM

Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
 
On Jan 22, 5:21*pm, Bolt Upright wrote:
On 1/22/2010 4:41 PM, Dave Moorman wrote:



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http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...from-entering-....
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igan.html


Time to learn how to cook carp!


Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm
reading.


--Mike


They had a feature about cooking carp on the WGN news. *Apparently it
has a bit more flavor and is not quite as flaky as some fish. *I'm not
much of a fish eater, but it seems like most of the flavor comes from
the sauce, anyway.


Could be *good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not
have to be shipped from China.


Well, maybe. But what if it wipes out the sport and commercial fishery
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I still say they need to take a bunch of tht toxin and head down to
Havana IL where it seems that the largest concentration of the carp
is, and give 'em a big dose. The carp take over easily and even though
it also takes out the game fish, well... the game fish ought to come
back with the carp out of the way, because the carp eat all the food
with nothing left for the others.


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