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Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing the ChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
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Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing the Chicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
In article , lil abner
wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ring-lake-mich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing the Chicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
"Dave Moorman" wrote in message ... In article , lil abner wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ring-lake-mich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm reading. --Mike |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Dave Moorman wrote:
In article , lil abner wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ring-lake-mich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! NPR had a piece last week that featured a famous new orleans chef presenting several recipes for carp. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing the Chicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
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"mgg" wrote: "Dave Moorman" wrote in message ... In article , lil abner wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ntering-lake-m ich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm reading. --Mike They had a feature about cooking carp on the WGN news. Apparently it has a bit more flavor and is not quite as flaky as some fish. I'm not much of a fish eater, but it seems like most of the flavor comes from the sauce, anyway. Could be good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not have to be shipped from China. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
On 1/22/2010 4:41 PM, Dave Moorman wrote:
In , wrote: "Dave wrote in message ... In , lil wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ntering-lake-m ich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm reading. --Mike They had a feature about cooking carp on the WGN news. Apparently it has a bit more flavor and is not quite as flaky as some fish. I'm not much of a fish eater, but it seems like most of the flavor comes from the sauce, anyway. Could be good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not have to be shipped from China. Well, maybe. But what if it wipes out the sport and commercial fishery in the Great Lakes? |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Bolt Upright wrote:
On 1/22/2010 4:41 PM, Dave Moorman wrote: In , wrote: "Dave wrote in message ... In , lil wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ntering-lake-m ich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm reading. --Mike They had a feature about cooking carp on the WGN news. Apparently it has a bit more flavor and is not quite as flaky as some fish. I'm not much of a fish eater, but it seems like most of the flavor comes from the sauce, anyway. Could be good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not have to be shipped from China. Well, maybe. But what if it wipes out the sport and commercial fishery in the Great Lakes? I don't think they were eating the Asian Carp. you can't catch them on a hook and line either. This was a PR thing by and for the hand full of shippers and Illinois Politicians. They don't give a damn if the US turns into another third world country in all degrees as long as their pockets are filled. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
On 1/22/2010 9:10 PM, lil abner wrote:
Bolt Upright wrote: On 1/22/2010 4:41 PM, Dave Moorman wrote: In , wrote: "Dave wrote in message ... In , lil wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ntering-lake-m ich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm reading. --Mike They had a feature about cooking carp on the WGN news. Apparently it has a bit more flavor and is not quite as flaky as some fish. I'm not much of a fish eater, but it seems like most of the flavor comes from the sauce, anyway. Could be good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not have to be shipped from China. Well, maybe. But what if it wipes out the sport and commercial fishery in the Great Lakes? I don't think they were eating the Asian Carp. you can't catch them on a hook and line either. This was a PR thing by and for the hand full of shippers and Illinois Politicians. They don't give a damn if the US turns into another third world country in all degrees as long as their pockets are filled. That's what I thought too, and what I was afraid of. They are far more concerned with keeping the canal open than they are about the ecological risk. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing the Chicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
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Bolt Upright wrote: Could be good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not have to be shipped from China. Well, maybe. But what if it wipes out the sport and commercial fishery in the Great Lakes? I don't think they were eating the Asian Carp. you can't catch them on a hook and line either. This was a PR thing by and for the hand full of shippers and Illinois Politicians. They don't give a damn if the US turns into another third world country in all degrees as long as their pockets are filled. That's what I thought too, and what I was afraid of. They are far more concerned with keeping the canal open than they are about the ecological risk. The carp are going to get into the Great Lakes no matter what we do - maybe one year from now, maybe 5. It's going to happen. The canal is a major transportation asset, also, and I can understand why people want to keep it open. It would be smart to do some planning and adapting. Last night on WGN they had an interview with a guy from Rockford who has worked out a way to make fish meal, which has may uses, from the Asian carp. His point is that if we harvest them *now* in great numbers from the canal and make cat food out of them, that will slow down their advance and make some money for the local economy. What's not to like? Can they be caught by net? |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Dave Moorman wrote:
The canal is a major transportation asset, also, and I can understand why people want to keep it open. Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? A set of doors and locks that prevents water flowing from the canal into Lake Michigan but still allows ships to pass through. A set of pumps and filters or screens to prevent the fish from moving through the locks when water is moved between them. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Lake Guy wrote:
Dave Moorman wrote: The canal is a major transportation asset, also, and I can understand why people want to keep it open. Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? A set of doors and locks that prevents water flowing from the canal into Lake Michigan but still allows ships to pass through. A set of pumps and filters or screens to prevent the fish from moving through the locks when water is moved between them. Global business doesn't want to. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Lake Guy wrote:
Dave Moorman wrote: The canal is a major transportation asset, also, and I can understand why people want to keep it open. Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? A set of doors and locks that prevents water flowing from the canal into Lake Michigan but still allows ships to pass through. A set of pumps and filters or screens to prevent the fish from moving through the locks when water is moved between them. They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not that simple. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Bruce wrote:
Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not that simple. Where are these locks? They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put them in the locks (if these locks really do exist). When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the lake-side door. If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber, you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them one way or another. Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
On 31/01/2010 8:19 AM, Lake Guy wrote:
Bruce wrote: Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not that simple. Where are these locks? They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put them in the locks (if these locks really do exist). When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the lake-side door. If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber, you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them one way or another. Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them. It just takes one pair of mating capable to get through. I wonder if they got through years ago already, 10 years ago used to see fish looking pretty close to the same up at Port Washington right along on the weir. Could never catch them with hook and line as they never bit on anything, just lazy sucking in the water. Which also fits the profile of these fish. Some were huge too, estimate 15 pounds and up. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Canuck57 wrote:
On 31/01/2010 8:19 AM, Lake Guy wrote: Bruce wrote: Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not that simple. Where are these locks? They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put them in the locks (if these locks really do exist). When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the lake-side door. If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber, you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them one way or another. Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them. It just takes one pair of mating capable to get through. I wonder if they got through years ago already, 10 years ago used to see fish looking pretty close to the same up at Port Washington right along on the weir. Could never catch them with hook and line as they never bit on anything, just lazy sucking in the water. Which also fits the profile of these fish. Some were huge too, estimate 15 pounds and up. Big Business/Washington don't consider that the special interest of Global shippers will get over blocking the Canal and River but the Great Lakes and the whole of North America will never get over introduction of the Asian Carp into the Great Lakes. The Channel must be blocked. If it takes poisoning the entire Mississsippi Drainage it or another effective program must be done. |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicagoSanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
Lake Guy wrote:
Bruce wrote: Why can't they create a lock setup for the canal? They already have locks. How can they filter fish out? It's not that simple. Where are these locks? They have electrification equipment on the Chicago river - why not put them in the locks (if these locks really do exist). When a ship is in the lock and the lake-side lock door is closed, you turn on the juice force any fish out of the lock and into the river-side part of the lock, then you close the river-side lock door and open the lake-side door to let the ship out into the lake, then you close the lake-side door. If you always keep the electicity turned on inside the lock chamber, you'll see if any fish are in there jumping around and deal with them one way or another. Throw a bucket of salt into the chamber once per hour to increase electrical conductivity to really make it nasty for them. There are 15 locks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinoi...Michigan_Canal |
Prevent Asian Carp from entering Lake Michigan by closing theChicago Sanitary/Shipping Canal Petition
On Jan 22, 5:21*pm, Bolt Upright wrote:
On 1/22/2010 4:41 PM, Dave Moorman wrote: In , * *wrote: "Dave *wrote in message ... In , lil wrote: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...from-entering-.... ich igan.html Time to learn how to cook carp! Got a recipe? So far, every recipe seems to taste like sh*&t from what I'm reading. --Mike They had a feature about cooking carp on the WGN news. *Apparently it has a bit more flavor and is not quite as flaky as some fish. *I'm not much of a fish eater, but it seems like most of the flavor comes from the sauce, anyway. Could be *good resource for the cat food industry, plus it would not have to be shipped from China. Well, maybe. But what if it wipes out the sport and commercial fishery in the Great Lakes?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I still say they need to take a bunch of tht toxin and head down to Havana IL where it seems that the largest concentration of the carp is, and give 'em a big dose. The carp take over easily and even though it also takes out the game fish, well... the game fish ought to come back with the carp out of the way, because the carp eat all the food with nothing left for the others. |
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