Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...

Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...
Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the
typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?

Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the
contributions go to those intended.

Red Cross sucks!


We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little
overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.

On Jan 16, 9:25*am, HK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
m...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...

Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...
Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the
typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?

Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the
contributions go to those intended.

Red Cross sucks!

We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little
overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck
loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to
Florida to be loaded and sent.

Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...
Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the
typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?
Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the
contributions go to those intended.
Red Cross sucks!
We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little
overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck
loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to
Florida to be loaded and sent.

No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd
let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and
the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are
evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of
that sect.

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee"
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...

Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the
typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or
not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone
to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?
Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94%
of the
contributions go to those intended.
Red Cross sucks!
We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little
overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck
loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to
Florida to be loaded and sent.

No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd
let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and
the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are
evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of
that sect.

Well you're not. The only thing you have been able to run over the years
is your mouth.

On Jan 16, 9:53*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:VfadnZo3MPuhYc3WnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@giganews. com...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...
Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the
typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?
Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the
contributions go to those intended.
Red Cross sucks!
We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little
overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Today, the Southern Baptists *Association are sending two semi truck
loads of food and various suplies from *a three county *area to
Florida to be loaded and sent.

No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd
let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and
the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are
evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of
that sect.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside

On Jan 16, 10:25*am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:53*am, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:VfadnZo3MPuhYc3WnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@giganews. com...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...
Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the
typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?
Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the
contributions go to those intended.
Red Cross sucks!
We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little
overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Today, the Southern Baptists *Association are sending two semi truck
loads of food and various suplies from *a three county *area to
Florida to be loaded and sent.

No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd
let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and
the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are
evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of
that sect.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I see my typing is still lousy. But on a side note, My local
congregation has supported two of the five mission groups of our
"sect" there for years, One is a clinic. We have heard that the clinic
in Port au Prince is damaged but still operational, which is good.

Tim wrote:

Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside


I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

On Jan 16, 10:34*am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote:
Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside

I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

Did they help improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read?
I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance.

Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries
method of "converting" was forced. I really doubt there was any
"forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your
right to be critical.

Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:34 am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote:
Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside
I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

Did they help improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read?
I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance.

Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries
method of "converting" was forced. I really doubt there was any
"forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your
right to be critical.

Those *******s come in, provide free health and education, they smile
and are all nicey nicey to the people and then talk about Jesus. Those
*******s, if I was dictator of a country, I would not let those son of a
bitches in my country.

Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:34 am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote:
Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside
I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

Did they help improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read?
I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance.

Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries
method of "converting" was forced. I really doubt there was any
"forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your
right to be critical.

There's direct and indirect forcing, as I am sure you know.