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Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 12:38 PM

Texas Taliban
 
thunder wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:54:36 -0500, Harry wrote:


I inherited a couple of fundie relatives, a young couple, who are home
schooling their kids not because they think they can offer them a better
education, but to keep them from "mixing" with kids whose parents are
more moderate and liberal. Their words. In other words, they want to
raise isolated automatons.


Wish them luck. It rarely works out that way. Unless you lock them in a
closet, kids tend to find their own way.


I sure hope so. The husband of the couple in question is a fundie
minister. The kids are only allowed to socialize with kids of other
congregation members. Scary stuff, right out of the Taliban playbook, if
there is a Taliban playbook.

[email protected] January 13th 10 12:38 PM

Texas Taliban
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:35:30 -0500, Harry
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:32:27 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:50:03 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:33:26 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:28:25 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:59:18 -0500, Gene
wrote:

snipped for brevity
Your bigotry is showing. Secular vs. non-secular is not an issue
beyond some weighted geographic issues....

The vinegar bottle is an equal opportunity depriver...

You taught your daughter. I've taught hundreds of folks in the last
few decades. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you lack
depth of experience.
And you have homeschooled for an appreciable time?
Yes, I have, and my son attended both a private school and a Baptist
Academy for several years.

In addition to all of that..... I have learned from my mistakes......
I judge, from your posts, that you haven't.
You judge poorly then. I have never homeschooled.
Well... that explains a LOT..... again, you are waxing eloquent about
a subject you have no knowledge or personal experience.

I thought you were an idiot..... I didn't realize you just didn't know
what you were talking about..... OK...... I'm good.....
The sensible and honest reader will note that I have refrained from
making any statements of fact that would lead one to believe that the
author of these lines is an expert in homeschooling. In fact, I doubt
that a challenge to corroborate such an assertion would yield much
evidence that this humble person made any statements of fact in this
regard. What this person did do, aside from making a few meager
inquiries, was to illustrate the poor thinking of a pontificating,
ultra-resplendent academician. And it would appear from the knee-jerk
response of the Infallible Erudite from the Great Halls of Conceit,
that the sting of that illustration was...tangible.
Wow! I thought Spiro T. Agnew passed in 1996, but perhaps you are
channeling him...

No meager inquiries, in fact, you admitted to being condescending.

If fact appears to you as pontification and academia offends you as
being too intellectual, please feel comfortable in your liberal yet
parochial views. You will surely find comfort as others, here, have
posted with respect to the evils of intellectuals, so you should be
able to find many soul mates....

I didn't note any illustration, but if the images in your mind give
your comfort, please enjoy them.

In the future, please let me know if you are responding with eloquent
verbiage, rather than any experience or knowledge on the subject. It
will greatly enhance the reader's experience..... Generally, I prefer
to have discourse with folks that have knowledge of a subject, rather
than a patter of magical words...


Who's going to permit you to find refuge in the red herring? There is
nothing to suggest that I'm anti-intellectual in any of this
discourse. What should be obvious, even to you, is that I oppose
conceit. Experience is not the issue when you have served up a game
of feigned intellectualism replete with examples of poor thinking. Are
you able to redeem yourself? To put the onus on lack of experience is
disingenuous, when the term itself is broad and generic. If my
experience is in the dialectic, do you bear the conceit to deny it?
All you have to do to play your game is to put the focus on my
verbiage. You, my conceited fellow, are in error.


Frankly, you have nothing to offer but overblown "verbiage."


Then I would suggest that you have limited experience in
comprehension.

Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 12:45 PM

Texas Taliban
 
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:35:30 -0500, Harry
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:32:27 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:50:03 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:33:26 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:28:25 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:59:18 -0500, Gene
wrote:

snipped for brevity
Your bigotry is showing. Secular vs. non-secular is not an issue
beyond some weighted geographic issues....

The vinegar bottle is an equal opportunity depriver...

You taught your daughter. I've taught hundreds of folks in the last
few decades. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you lack
depth of experience.
And you have homeschooled for an appreciable time?
Yes, I have, and my son attended both a private school and a Baptist
Academy for several years.

In addition to all of that..... I have learned from my mistakes......
I judge, from your posts, that you haven't.
You judge poorly then. I have never homeschooled.
Well... that explains a LOT..... again, you are waxing eloquent about
a subject you have no knowledge or personal experience.

I thought you were an idiot..... I didn't realize you just didn't know
what you were talking about..... OK...... I'm good.....
The sensible and honest reader will note that I have refrained from
making any statements of fact that would lead one to believe that the
author of these lines is an expert in homeschooling. In fact, I doubt
that a challenge to corroborate such an assertion would yield much
evidence that this humble person made any statements of fact in this
regard. What this person did do, aside from making a few meager
inquiries, was to illustrate the poor thinking of a pontificating,
ultra-resplendent academician. And it would appear from the knee-jerk
response of the Infallible Erudite from the Great Halls of Conceit,
that the sting of that illustration was...tangible.
Wow! I thought Spiro T. Agnew passed in 1996, but perhaps you are
channeling him...

No meager inquiries, in fact, you admitted to being condescending.

If fact appears to you as pontification and academia offends you as
being too intellectual, please feel comfortable in your liberal yet
parochial views. You will surely find comfort as others, here, have
posted with respect to the evils of intellectuals, so you should be
able to find many soul mates....

I didn't note any illustration, but if the images in your mind give
your comfort, please enjoy them.

In the future, please let me know if you are responding with eloquent
verbiage, rather than any experience or knowledge on the subject. It
will greatly enhance the reader's experience..... Generally, I prefer
to have discourse with folks that have knowledge of a subject, rather
than a patter of magical words...
Who's going to permit you to find refuge in the red herring? There is
nothing to suggest that I'm anti-intellectual in any of this
discourse. What should be obvious, even to you, is that I oppose
conceit. Experience is not the issue when you have served up a game
of feigned intellectualism replete with examples of poor thinking. Are
you able to redeem yourself? To put the onus on lack of experience is
disingenuous, when the term itself is broad and generic. If my
experience is in the dialectic, do you bear the conceit to deny it?
All you have to do to play your game is to put the focus on my
verbiage. You, my conceited fellow, are in error.


Frankly, you have nothing to offer but overblown "verbiage."


Then I would suggest that you have limited experience in
comprehension.


You can suggest whatever you wish, but that doesn't mean your
suggestions are worthy of consideration. I've read enough of the
overblown, overwritten crap you post here to know there's nothing there,
and that includes a critical discussion of ideas. Frankly, in terms of
usenet discussions, you remind me of a gaseous anomaly, i.e., someone
who is always farting or burping.




--
Where others have hearts, right-wingers carry tumors of rotten principles.

John H[_12_] January 13th 10 01:17 PM

Texas Taliban
 
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:09:49 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....



The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.


OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


You make a damn good point. The gay trash is hurting the cause of all
gays. You shouldn't have to explain to an eight-year old the 'show off
licky-licky' of two adults on a sidewalk in DC.

Hopefully, the folks in DC will get to vote on the gay marriage
proposal and put it where it belongs. Maybe that'll spread the word to
the gay 'licky-licky' folks that their mores aren't welcome on the
mall, or anywhere out of their bedrooms.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H

Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 01:25 PM

Texas Taliban
 
John H wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:09:49 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.
You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....
Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.
It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.
Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....

The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


You make a damn good point. The gay trash is hurting the cause of all
gays. You shouldn't have to explain to an eight-year old the 'show off
licky-licky' of two adults on a sidewalk in DC.

Hopefully, the folks in DC will get to vote on the gay marriage
proposal and put it where it belongs. Maybe that'll spread the word to
the gay 'licky-licky' folks that their mores aren't welcome on the
mall, or anywhere out of their bedrooms.



Where others have hearts, Herring carries tumors of rotten principles.


Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 02:01 PM

Texas Taliban
 
mgg wrote:
"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.
You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....
Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.
It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.
Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....

The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


That's why we don't take our kids to San Francisco. harry seems to like it
there though. ;-)

--Mike


I approve this post

Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 02:03 PM

Texas Taliban
 
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:39:27 -0800, "mgg" wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.
You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....
Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.
It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.
Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....

The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.
OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......

That's why we don't take our kids to San Francisco. harry seems to like it
there though. ;-)

--Mike


I've been to SF and I know it has a large gay population. Personally,
I haven't seen them showing their *ss, but I guess that doesn't mean
they don't.

I'm not a homophobe. I have gay friends. I have gay friends that I
would trust as babysitters, but that doesn't describe all gay folks.

I stand by my original position.


You were lucky.

Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 02:09 PM

Texas Taliban
 
Harry wrote:

We've seen gay couples in San Franciso, just as we've seen them in New
York, DC, LA, New Orleans, Miami, and even at...Disney World. A few act
a bit strangely in public, but most do not. So what?

I think my oldest kid was about five when we took our first family
vacation to California. We saw some gay couples then...and explained
that some women date women and some men date men. No biggie.



Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 02:13 PM

Texas Taliban
 
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:35:30 -0500, Harry
wrote:


Frankly, you have nothing to offer but overblown "verbiage."


Then I would suggest that you have limited experience in
comprehension.


BINGO

Harry[_2_] January 13th 10 02:17 PM

Texas Taliban
 
Harry wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:35:30 -0500, Harry
wrote:


Frankly, you have nothing to offer but overblown "verbiage."


Then I would suggest that you have limited experience in
comprehension.


BINGO



Ahhh...flajim or loogy or whoever made it through another night to ID
spoof yet again. Yawn.

--
Where others have hearts, right-wingers carry tumors of rotten principles.


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