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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:


I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC of
public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of their
religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public schools around
here, just plain suck.

--Mike

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:51:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 12/01/2010 5:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

A parent has a choice to home-school, given certain requirements.
Children
don't typically have a legal voice of their own. They must usually be
represented by an adult. It's in the best interest of society for the
population to be educated. I suppose you disagree with this.

And given how people make excuses, and get away with it. Might as well
repeal the requirements.

BTW, I think all children should be going physically to a school unless
circumstances are abobiously unavoidable. Such as a family on an island
manning a lighthouse and the nearest school is 100 miles away.

Chop the squakers hair and march to school...


Actually, homeschooled kids tend to do better academically.

This is true, with reservations.

They tend to be excellent readers with good written communications
skills. One-on-one verbal skills are excellent.

Group verbal communication and socialization skills tend to be from
fair to exceedingly poor.

They tend to do very well in math, through college algebra.... trig
and beyond is a vast sea of ignorance.

They tend to be well versed in certain areas of history, but perform
poorly in world history.

Most home schooling texts stress recall and these kids excel at that,
though they have a lot of issues with synthesis of ideas and problem
solving. They perform very well when given directions, but suffer when
tasked with giving directions. (Probably not surprising, other
countries teach in much the same fashion and those foreign nationals
suffer from identical issues.)

Employers.... when asked what is important in the workplace, seldom
mention "academics." Communication and Teamwork are usually at the top
of their list..... and most home schooled and private schooled kids
don't get enough of these skills....


Hmmm... you have a source for this data?

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....


The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


"Some people are a bit strange." Do you think that's a wrong answer?

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"mgg" wrote in message
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"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....


The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


That's why we don't take our kids to San Francisco. harry seems to like it
there though. ;-)

--Mike

I guess that guy who tried to date a horse would be ok then...

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:39:27 -0800, "mgg" wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me
is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat
from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....


The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


That's why we don't take our kids to San Francisco. harry seems to like it
there though. ;-)

--Mike


I've been to SF and I know it has a large gay population. Personally,
I haven't seen them showing their *ss, but I guess that doesn't mean
they don't.

I'm not a homophobe. I have gay friends. I have gay friends that I
would trust as babysitters, but that doesn't describe all gay folks.

I stand by my original position.


You need to show up on Halloween.

You have gay friends... good for you. "but that doesn't describe all gay
folks." That's rich. "That" doesn't describe all _any_ folks.

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:26:48 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:51:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 12/01/2010 5:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

A parent has a choice to home-school, given certain requirements.
Children
don't typically have a legal voice of their own. They must usually be
represented by an adult. It's in the best interest of society for the
population to be educated. I suppose you disagree with this.

And given how people make excuses, and get away with it. Might as
well
repeal the requirements.

BTW, I think all children should be going physically to a school
unless
circumstances are abobiously unavoidable. Such as a family on an
island
manning a lighthouse and the nearest school is 100 miles away.

Chop the squakers hair and march to school...


Actually, homeschooled kids tend to do better academically.

This is true, with reservations.

They tend to be excellent readers with good written communications
skills. One-on-one verbal skills are excellent.

Group verbal communication and socialization skills tend to be from
fair to exceedingly poor.

They tend to do very well in math, through college algebra.... trig
and beyond is a vast sea of ignorance.

They tend to be well versed in certain areas of history, but perform
poorly in world history.

Most home schooling texts stress recall and these kids excel at that,
though they have a lot of issues with synthesis of ideas and problem
solving. They perform very well when given directions, but suffer when
tasked with giving directions. (Probably not surprising, other
countries teach in much the same fashion and those foreign nationals
suffer from identical issues.)

Employers.... when asked what is important in the workplace, seldom
mention "academics." Communication and Teamwork are usually at the top
of their list..... and most home schooled and private schooled kids
don't get enough of these skills....


Hmmm... you have a source for this data?

Yes, I do.... at least, in part. I have information from employers....
simplified..... and expanded, as a DACUM.
http://www.ccsf.edu/Services/CTE/crc/dacum.html

The specifics of the classes and students.... well, that's my
accumulated wisdom....


Interesting....

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:31:02 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:39:27 -0800, "mgg" wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
news:6hbqk592jtl7o2e9t6j12alj1jb6bu3hlt@4ax. com...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay
as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me
is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat
from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay,
transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....


The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


That's why we don't take our kids to San Francisco. harry seems to like
it
there though. ;-)

--Mike


I've been to SF and I know it has a large gay population. Personally,
I haven't seen them showing their *ss, but I guess that doesn't mean
they don't.

I'm not a homophobe. I have gay friends. I have gay friends that I
would trust as babysitters, but that doesn't describe all gay folks.

I stand by my original position.


You need to show up on Halloween.

You have gay friends... good for you. "but that doesn't describe all gay
folks." That's rich. "That" doesn't describe all _any_ folks.

I don't know where you are gong with this, but *all* is a dangerous
area..... and I *thought* I made that point....

... what did I miss?


You used the word all, specifically all gay folks, as though that group
wouldn't be exceptional in people's minds. I was going to say that if you
left off the "but...," it would be more reasonable, but the whole paragraph
seems wrong. There are ex-cons who I would probably trust with a few hundred
$$ cash. There are others I wouldn't trust with $1. I'm not intending to
bash you. It's just that when you start a thought with "I'm not a
homophobe," one wonders why it's necessary to say that.

Ok, well, I did the best I could with this... :)

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"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:28:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:55:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me
is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat
from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....


The explanation is... some people are a bit strange. If a child asks a
direct question at that age, they should get as direct an answer as
possible.

OK, so humor me.... two chicks, leather, thigh high stilettos, leash,
studded collar, and crop. Couple reaches a cross street and waits for
traffic. Domme gets sub on her knees for a little show-off
licky-licky.... shoot, it just ain't no fun if everybody isn't able to
watch, now is it?

So, Dad, what sort of direct answer have you got to explain that to a
kid?

Yeah...... thought so......


"Some people are a bit strange." Do you think that's a wrong answer?

A wrong answer? No. Not, if you could get away with that, good for
you.

I'm just wondering if that wouldn't just mitigate the inevitable follow up
questions you'd get. :)

I can assure you that would never have satisfied my kid...... nor me,
when I was his age........

If you can befuddle your kid with.... they ain't like us..... good on
you, but around our household, that wouldn't buy you 15 seconds to
come up with the next half-truth......

What do you think the next question would be?




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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:55:16 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:19:56 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:07:23 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:


I find reference to poster's families particularly offensive and I
doubt that I am by myself.

Gene, take a deep breath along with whomever else finds my reference
to Herring's wife being a masochist in poor taste.

Herring is an exercise in poor taste and any chance to use him as
fodder for humor, however sick you deem it, is fair territory for me.

Do your eyebrows constantly furrow? Same with your rectum?

I do my share of picking on John, too, but his family, and yours, and
mine are..... as far as I'm concerned, not fair game. Some of you
folks take this so damn seriously. I don't like John's politics, but
I'd sit down and drink a beer with him..... some of you guys, well....
I guess I'm glad you DON'T like guns.....

Your fascination with gays and my rectum is duly noted......

I'm more interested in what your eyebrows and rectum say about your
state of mind. My suspicion is that they're both tight as can be.

Based on the photos I recall from your website, you're not at all my
type, or even gender. Thanks for keeping me in mind.

Texas Taliban
 

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:35:51 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:14:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:01:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:34 -0800, jps wrote:

The problem here is that you've been conditioned to think of gay as
equating with S&M and other fetishes, which are certainly not
exclusive to the gay population.

You assumptions are so moronic.... and what you don't know about me is
so abundant, I won't even go there.

Let me just say that an IN-YOUR-FACE gay march in DC, replete with
plenty of fetish regalia and open sexual (kinky) activity ruined a
family museum outing with my son and sent us into a rapid retreat from
the spectacle. I'm all about the freedom of adults to express
themselves any way they (in a consenting manner) wish to privately
express themselves.

Forcing it down other folks throat has earned them a well deserved
"down" from other folks... including the lesbian, gay, transgendered,
and straight.....

Well then, your assumptions must be moronic too, eh?
.
I'm not ASSUMING anything.

You weren't forced to be there.

It was THE PUBLIC. People are supposed to act in a CIVIL manner in
PUBLIC. They didn't.

It was on THE MALL..... it ruined EVERY family's chance at a day at
the museums.... it was WRONG.

I wasn't forced to be there.... WE were forced to LEAVE.

It was an unfortunate occurance. No one was forcing their lifestyle
or beliefs on you or your kids. That's baloney and you know it.

Oh.... fine. So I get to explain to an 8 year old why one woman is
dragging another around by a dog leash. Adults G/L/T/S could
reasonably act the way these folks were acting at the local swing
club, but not in public and not in front of kids. Tell you what, you
take your kids and grand kids to the local gay bar for fun.... I'm
headed to Chuckie Cheese with mine.....

What was happening went right over your 8 year old's head. You could
have swept it aside in a moments notice by telling your kid that they
were play acting and just having silly fun. Your kid would have
thought nothing more of it.

My wife managed the campaign of an openly gay state rep in California
several years ago and both our pre-10 year olds marched in the local
parade next to drag queens and transvestites. We've chosen to expose
them to all sorts of people and not seed fearful complexes (like
yours).

They also go to school with African Americans, 16 different flavors of
Asians, Indians, Arabs, North Africans, etc., etc.

They're completely normal kids with a broader range of understanding
and empathy because of it. I'm sure you'd like them, even if you
can't appreciate the leanings of their father.

What's astonishing to me is that you find gays a more frightening
influence than guns.

I guess inanimate things are easier for you to deal with.