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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:


Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under
the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he
flew in on an American airliner.

How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not
well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone?


Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the
protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised
their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections.
John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This
last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful
combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have
protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for
violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war.


With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group
performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives?


Don't know. Can you figure it out? If so, give the CIA a call.

You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand.


And, I wonder where your head is stuck... no don't answer, it's obvious.

His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections
accorded prisoners of war.


So, he shouldn't be tortured then. To whom or where should we return him?


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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:23:41 -0500, Jim wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:


Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under
the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if
he
flew in on an American airliner.
How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is
not
well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone?
Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the
protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration
devised
their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections.
John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions.
This
last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful
combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have
protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for
violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war.

With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group
performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives?

You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand.

His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections
accorded prisoners of war.

I think the guy should be allowed to complete his mission inside one
of those bomb detonation chambers on wheels. Or forced to spend the
night with nom de plume.


If given the latter, he'd be begging for waterboarding!
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Poor Jim. He's so constricted. Looks like you can relieve him.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:


Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under
the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he
flew in on an American airliner.
How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not
well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone?
Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the
protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised
their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections.
John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This
last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful
combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have
protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for
violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war.

With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group
performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives?


Don't know. Can you figure it out? If so, give the CIA a call.

You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand.


And, I wonder where your head is stuck... no don't answer, it's obvious.

His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections
accorded prisoners of war.


So, he shouldn't be tortured then. To whom or where should we return him?


Now loogie has to get in the game spoofing mizz plume. your loogie logic
is unmistakable.


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On 1/10/2010 9:23 AM, Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:


Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under
the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he
flew in on an American airliner.
How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not
well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone?
Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are
the protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration
devised their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those
protections. John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his
definitions. This last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the
definitions of a "lawful combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If
he did, he would have protected status, and could not be held
personally responsible for violations of civilian laws that are
permissible under the laws of war.


With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group
performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives?

You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand.

His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections
accorded prisoners of war.

I think the guy should be allowed to complete his mission inside one of
those bomb detonation chambers on wheels. Or forced to spend the night
with nom de plume. Me, I'll just continue to spoof harry's ID here.


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On 1/10/2010 9:20 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:23 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:44:15 -0800 (PST), John H
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OK. It's fair to kill 'supposed' enemy combatants, even though there's
been no proof of same presented, and they're wearing nothing to
distinguish them from the local population. However, if and when an
enemy combatant can penetrate our border, then he is due the complete
and full protection granted any citizen of the USA.
how many cop cars do we have in yemen?



Suppose the enemy combatant crossed our border as part of a battalion.
Would he then, if captured, be entitled to the full protection of the
law?
the last time that happened was in 1812. please let me know if it
happens again, m'kay?



Or, should captured enemy combatants be treated as prisoners of war,
which is what the little ****ers are.
Maybe you and your liberal friends need a refresher in combat. At
least your Messiah is learning to use the proper terminology, "We are
at war." "Smartest words to come out of his mouth yet. Thank God he's
listening to Cheney.
bush tried richard reid, the shoe bomber, in federal court. so why you
bitchin' about obama?



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Because Obama is a liberal, which can do no good ever, and Bush is a
conservative which can do no bad ever. That's John's M.O.



And the broken record continues to play. Of course, I have nothing to add here. I just whine.


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On 1/10/2010 9:48 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Harry wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:23 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:44:15 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:



OK. It's fair to kill 'supposed' enemy combatants, even though
there's
been no proof of same presented, and they're wearing nothing to
distinguish them from the local population. However, if and when an
enemy combatant can penetrate our border, then he is due the complete
and full protection granted any citizen of the USA.
how many cop cars do we have in yemen?



Suppose the enemy combatant crossed our border as part of a
battalion.
Would he then, if captured, be entitled to the full protection of the
law?
the last time that happened was in 1812. please let me know if it
happens again, m'kay?



Or, should captured enemy combatants be treated as prisoners of war,
which is what the little ****ers are.
Maybe you and your liberal friends need a refresher in combat. At
least your Messiah is learning to use the proper terminology, "We are
at war." "Smartest words to come out of his mouth yet. Thank God he's
listening to Cheney.
bush tried richard reid, the shoe bomber, in federal court. so why you
bitchin' about obama?



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Because Obama is a liberal, which can do no good ever, and Bush is a
conservative which can do no bad ever. That's John's M.O.


And the broken record continues to play.


Your broken record isn't any different...you come here only to snipe.



Gotcha...But all I have to offer are snipes about other posters.


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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600,
wrote:


On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:



Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under
the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he
flew in on an American airliner.

How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not
well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone?

Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the
protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised
their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections.
John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This
last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful
combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have
protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for
violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war.

With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group
performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives?

Don't know. Can you figure it out? If so, give the CIA a call.


You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand.

And, I wonder where your head is stuck... no don't answer, it's obvious.


His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections
accorded prisoners of war.

So, he shouldn't be tortured then. To whom or where should we return him?



That's the problem. Even Obama doesn't have an answer yet Gitmo was
supposed to be a ghost town over nice months ago!

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