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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he flew in on an American airliner. How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone? Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections. John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war. With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives? Don't know. Can you figure it out? If so, give the CIA a call. You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand. And, I wonder where your head is stuck... no don't answer, it's obvious. His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections accorded prisoners of war. So, he shouldn't be tortured then. To whom or where should we return him? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:23:41 -0500, Jim wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he flew in on an American airliner. How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone? Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections. John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war. With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives? You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand. His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections accorded prisoners of war. I think the guy should be allowed to complete his mission inside one of those bomb detonation chambers on wheels. Or forced to spend the night with nom de plume. If given the latter, he'd be begging for waterboarding! -- John H All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Poor Jim. He's so constricted. Looks like you can relieve him. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he flew in on an American airliner. How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone? Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections. John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war. With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives? Don't know. Can you figure it out? If so, give the CIA a call. You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand. And, I wonder where your head is stuck... no don't answer, it's obvious. His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections accorded prisoners of war. So, he shouldn't be tortured then. To whom or where should we return him? Now loogie has to get in the game spoofing mizz plume. your loogie logic is unmistakable. |
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On 1/10/2010 9:23 AM, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, thunder wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he flew in on an American airliner. How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone? Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections. John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war. With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives? You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand. His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections accorded prisoners of war. I think the guy should be allowed to complete his mission inside one of those bomb detonation chambers on wheels. Or forced to spend the night with nom de plume. Me, I'll just continue to spoof harry's ID here. |
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On 1/10/2010 9:20 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote: On Jan 9, 8:23 pm, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:44:15 -0800 (PST), John H wrote: OK. It's fair to kill 'supposed' enemy combatants, even though there's been no proof of same presented, and they're wearing nothing to distinguish them from the local population. However, if and when an enemy combatant can penetrate our border, then he is due the complete and full protection granted any citizen of the USA. how many cop cars do we have in yemen? Suppose the enemy combatant crossed our border as part of a battalion. Would he then, if captured, be entitled to the full protection of the law? the last time that happened was in 1812. please let me know if it happens again, m'kay? Or, should captured enemy combatants be treated as prisoners of war, which is what the little ****ers are. Maybe you and your liberal friends need a refresher in combat. At least your Messiah is learning to use the proper terminology, "We are at war." "Smartest words to come out of his mouth yet. Thank God he's listening to Cheney. bush tried richard reid, the shoe bomber, in federal court. so why you bitchin' about obama? (Sent through Google)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Because Obama is a liberal, which can do no good ever, and Bush is a conservative which can do no bad ever. That's John's M.O. And the broken record continues to play. Of course, I have nothing to add here. I just whine. |
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On 1/10/2010 9:48 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Harry wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Jan 9, 8:23 pm, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:44:15 -0800 (PST), John H wrote: OK. It's fair to kill 'supposed' enemy combatants, even though there's been no proof of same presented, and they're wearing nothing to distinguish them from the local population. However, if and when an enemy combatant can penetrate our border, then he is due the complete and full protection granted any citizen of the USA. how many cop cars do we have in yemen? Suppose the enemy combatant crossed our border as part of a battalion. Would he then, if captured, be entitled to the full protection of the law? the last time that happened was in 1812. please let me know if it happens again, m'kay? Or, should captured enemy combatants be treated as prisoners of war, which is what the little ****ers are. Maybe you and your liberal friends need a refresher in combat. At least your Messiah is learning to use the proper terminology, "We are at war." "Smartest words to come out of his mouth yet. Thank God he's listening to Cheney. bush tried richard reid, the shoe bomber, in federal court. so why you bitchin' about obama? (Sent through Google)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Because Obama is a liberal, which can do no good ever, and Bush is a conservative which can do no bad ever. That's John's M.O. And the broken record continues to play. Your broken record isn't any different...you come here only to snipe. Gotcha...But all I have to offer are snipes about other posters. |
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:14:31 -0500, BAR wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:05:06 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:52:50 -0500, Jim wrote: On 1/9/2010 1:38 PM, John H wrote: And here's something else for you, plum. Please take heed!! A woman went to her doctor for advice. She told him that her husband had developed a penchant for anal sex, and she was not sure that it was such a good idea. 'Do you enjoy it?' The doctor asked. 'Actually, yes, I do. ''Does it hurt you?' he asked. 'No. I rather like it.' 'Well, then,' the doctor continued, 'there's no reason that you shouldn't practice anal sex, if that's what you like, so long as you take care not to get pregnant.' The woman was mystified. 'What? You can get pregnant from anal sex?' 'Of course, ' the doctor replied. 'Where do you think people like Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid come from?' -- John H. You sure have been writing a lot about anal sex lately. Is it true you like receiving it? Projecting, Harry? He's jealous. I mean I'm jealous. Spoofing's a real mental bitch. -- America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask. John H |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:33:01 -0600, wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Exactly. Thank you. They should be treated as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention. So should any other enemy combatant, even if he flew in on an American airliner. How do you determine if this person is an enemy combatant (which is not well defined by law) or just a lunatic acting alone? Actually, enemy, or legal, combatant is rather well defined, as are the protections given to them. Which is why, the Bush administration devised their new terminology, "unlawful combatant" to avoid those protections. John, as per usual, is playing fast and loose with his definitions. This last perpetrator does not meet *any* of the definitions of a "lawful combatant" under the Geneva Conventions. If he did, he would have protected status, and could not be held personally responsible for violations of civilian laws that are permissible under the laws of war. With whom are we at war? Was this individual a member of that group performing a mission in accordance with the group's objectives? Don't know. Can you figure it out? If so, give the CIA a call. You liberals need to get your heads out of the sand. And, I wonder where your head is stuck... no don't answer, it's obvious. His 'protected status' should be in accordance with the protections accorded prisoners of war. So, he shouldn't be tortured then. To whom or where should we return him? That's the problem. Even Obama doesn't have an answer yet Gitmo was supposed to be a ghost town over nice months ago! Bruce |
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