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Frogwatch[_2_] January 6th 10 08:22 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.

John H[_12_] January 6th 10 09:00 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.

Don White January 6th 10 09:33 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Say what!
12 cups a day???
I drink one large cup a day..at breakfast and was thinking of cutting that
down in size.



Tim January 6th 10 10:49 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 6, 3:00*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.


Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.

But I ain't giving up coffee!

Frogwatch[_2_] January 6th 10 10:56 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 6, 5:49*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 6, 3:00*pm, John H wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch


wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.


Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.

But I ain't giving up coffee!


Am not giving it up, just cutting back to 3-4 cups/day.

BAR[_2_] January 6th 10 11:21 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
In article 57c7a17c-23b8-47eb-ac9c-
,
says...

First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Don't give up two things at one time. Give up coffee or alcohol but not
both at the same time.



Don White January 7th 10 12:11 AM

Caffeine withdrawal
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:33:43 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Say what!
12 cups a day???
I drink one large cup a day..at breakfast and was thinking of cutting that
down in size.

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.


My coffee maker says it is three cups..... at least that's how much water I
put in the machine.



jps January 7th 10 02:30 AM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


No wonder you're insane. 12 cups of coffee a day?

jps January 7th 10 02:32 AM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:21:28 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article 57c7a17c-23b8-47eb-ac9c-
,
says...

First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Don't give up two things at one time. Give up coffee or alcohol but not
both at the same time.



Good thing you've backed this up with sound reasoning.

mgg January 7th 10 04:59 AM

Caffeine withdrawal
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used to.
And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing the
Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for breakfast
and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones lake for some
trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal kayaks. Was easy to
imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling for trout. No fooling
around with cutting bread or cheese. And only caught one nice bass.


What's the lake level like at New Melones? It was waaay low when I was last
there in August.

--Mike



Bill McKee January 7th 10 05:18 AM

Caffeine withdrawal
 

"mgg" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used to.
And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing the
Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for breakfast
and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones lake for some
trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal kayaks. Was easy to
imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling for trout. No fooling
around with cutting bread or cheese. And only caught one nice bass.


What's the lake level like at New Melones? It was waaay low when I was
last there in August.

--Mike


Down 125'.



Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 01:16 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Harry wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:21:28 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article 57c7a17c-23b8-47eb-ac9c-
,
says...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Don't give up two things at one time. Give up coffee or alcohol but
not both at the same time.



Good thing you've backed this up with sound reasoning.



BAR is highly educated, having served stateside in the marines and
having skipped college entirely, and therefore he is expert in substance
abuse.


Love that reasoning. Snerk.

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Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 01:18 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
Harry wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:21:28 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article 57c7a17c-23b8-47eb-ac9c-
,
says...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I
prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol
I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Don't give up two things at one time. Give up coffee or alcohol but
not both at the same time.

Good thing you've backed this up with sound reasoning.

BAR is highly educated, having served stateside in the marines and
having skipped college entirely, and therefore he is expert in
substance
abuse.
I love it when you do a jab at jimh and his retarded son who had to
'enlist' in the marines.

Is your son still living at home, driving your car, eating your food,
drinking your beer and watching your TV? When is he going to stand on
his own two feet and get a job and live on his own?


Bertie you dumb f*ck,....you do know you're talkin' to a spoofer, don't
you?



How do you know you are talking to Bertie?

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Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 01:20 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. And only
caught one nice bass.


You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.

What would you suggest? PBJ?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.

John H[_12_] January 7th 10 01:21 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:33:43 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Say what!
12 cups a day???
I drink one large cup a day..at breakfast and was thinking of cutting that
down in size.

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.


I believe coffee maker cups are 6oz, whereas a normal measure is 8oz.
There are 32oz, or 4 cups in a quart.

So, your 12 cup coffeemaker actually makes only 72oz, and not 96oz as
it should.

John H[_12_] January 7th 10 01:23 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 6, 3:00*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.


Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.

But I ain't giving up coffee!


Don't forget chicken! But the best part, the skin, has got to go.

Rotisserie chickens, with a lot of celery and onions, make some great
soup, into which you can throw some brown rice.

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 01:31 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.

Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.

But I ain't giving up coffee!


Don't forget chicken! But the best part, the skin, has got to go.

Rotisserie chickens, with a lot of celery and onions, make some great
soup, into which you can throw some brown rice.



Yuck. If you are going to make chicken soup, make it from scratch, the
right way. Real chicken soup requires onions, salt, bay leaves, carrots,
celery, thyme, parsley, pepper, water, and, of course, chicken, which
you cook first and then skin.

What's in your homemade tomato sauce, herring? Ketchup?


Richard Casady January 7th 10 02:35 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500, wrote:

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.


I make a pot in the morning and pour it into a vacuum flask. That way
it oxidises less and doesn't evaporate at all. It is also in arms
reach and can go on the road.

Casady

mgg January 7th 10 04:24 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"mgg" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.

Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing the
Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for breakfast
and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones lake for
some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal kayaks. Was easy
to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling for trout. No fooling
around with cutting bread or cheese. And only caught one nice bass.


What's the lake level like at New Melones? It was waaay low when I was
last there in August.

--Mike


Down 125'.


Yikes. Good thing it's pretty deep.

--Mike



Tim January 7th 10 04:37 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 7:20*am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. *But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. *I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. *Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. *We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. *Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. *No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. *And only
caught one nice bass.


You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.


What would you suggest? PBJ?

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I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.

Tim January 7th 10 04:39 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 7:23*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch


wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.


Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.


But I ain't giving up coffee!


Don't forget chicken! But the best part, the skin, has got to go.

Rotisserie chickens, with a lot of celery and onions, make some great
soup, into which you can throw some brown rice.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, I usually go for skinless chicken breasts in the oven, but I
never knew why otherwise you needed to toss the skin?

Jim January 7th 10 04:41 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. And only
caught one nice bass.
You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.

What would you suggest? PBJ?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.



I like wonder bread smeared with just mayo.

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 04:45 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:23 am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.
Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.
But I ain't giving up coffee!

Don't forget chicken! But the best part, the skin, has got to go.

Rotisserie chickens, with a lot of celery and onions, make some great
soup, into which you can throw some brown rice.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, I usually go for skinless chicken breasts in the oven, but I
never knew why otherwise you needed to toss the skin?


Fatty...cholesterol.

Tim January 7th 10 04:48 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 10:41*am, Jim wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. *But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. *I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. *Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. *We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. *Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. *No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. *And only
caught one nice bass.
You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.
What would you suggest? PBJ?


--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.


I like wonder bread smeared with just mayo.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Good Lord! I used to eat a lot of Mayo, and dumped it for Mustard. I
figure I had enough artery clogging mayo to last a life time.

Tim January 7th 10 04:49 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 10:45*am, Harry wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:23 am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.
Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.
But I ain't giving up coffee!
Don't forget chicken! But the best part, the skin, has got to go.


Rotisserie chickens, with a lot of celery and onions, make some great
soup, into which you can throw some brown rice.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, I usually go for skinless chicken breasts in the oven, but I
never knew why otherwise you needed to toss the skin?


Fatty...cholesterol.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Could be, but I never thought there was enough junk in th skin (what
little and thin the skin actually is) to bother anything.

Loogypicker[_2_] January 7th 10 04:54 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 11:39*am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:23*am, John H wrote:





On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:22:16 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch


wrote:
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


I'd have cut out the booze, and cut way back on the coffee. Maybe only
11 cups, but they'd have to be 8oz cups, not those chintzy 6oz jobs.


Alot of stuff you enjoy is had to give up, but for the better. for me,
no more 1/2 lb hershey bars (1 a night) No more big bag of chips, or
doritos, or corn curls ( from top to the last crumb), cutting out on
salt. less beef and pork, and more fish. Eat more breakfast and less
supper.


But I ain't giving up coffee!


Don't forget chicken! But the best part, the skin, has got to go.


Rotisserie chickens, with a lot of celery and onions, make some great
soup, into which you can throw some brown rice.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, I usually go for skinless chicken breasts in the oven, but I
never knew why otherwise you needed to toss the skin?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I know why Harry does so, he doesn't like anything with flavor.
Remember, he uses the boil in the bag method of cooking turkey.

Jim January 7th 10 04:57 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Jim wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be
alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. And only
caught one nice bass.
You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.
What would you suggest? PBJ?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.



I like wonder bread smeared with just mayo.

What? No fried foreskins?

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 05:43 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:35:28 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500,
wrote:

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.

I make a pot in the morning and pour it into a vacuum flask. That way
it oxidises less and doesn't evaporate at all. It is also in arms
reach and can go on the road.

Casady

That's also what we do



We got some single "K-cup" brewers a couple of years ago. My wife uses
hers for tea, and I use mine for the one or two cups of coffee I drink
weekdays. They are really nice...hot coffee (tea) when you want it, and
nothing sitting around in a flask, getting stronger and stronger. 30 to
35 cents a cup. When I run out of k-cups, I just use instant coffee and
the cup of hot water the machine dispenses.

keurig machines. I've seen them for well under $100...

Tim January 7th 10 05:47 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Thanks for the e-mail Harry. It's taken into consideration!

Tim


Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 05:52 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Tim wrote:
Thanks for the e-mail Harry. It's taken into consideration!

Tim


You're welcome.

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 05:53 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:21:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:33:43 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Say what!
12 cups a day???
I drink one large cup a day..at breakfast and was thinking of cutting that
down in size.

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.

I believe coffee maker cups are 6oz, whereas a normal measure is 8oz.
There are 32oz, or 4 cups in a quart.

So, your 12 cup coffeemaker actually makes only 72oz, and not 96oz as
it should.


I just checked with a measuring cup. The Black and Decker coffee maker
uses 4oz "cups". A full 12 cup carafe is 48 oz although I usually end
up filling it more than that. It actually holds closer to 14 "cups".
Taking this science fair project a step farther I weighed the normal
coffee charge and it is right at one oz by weight (Maxwell House drip
grind) for that pot of coffee. That makes a pot of coffee about 15
cents if you catch a sale. ($5.99 for 39 oz can)
I know when we charged a quarter a mug (4 cups or so) at our shop we
ended up with a tidy profit that we spent on a cookout lunch a few
times a year.



Maybe you should set up an investigatory committee.

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 05:57 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Harry wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:21:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:33:43 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be
alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Say what!
12 cups a day???
I drink one large cup a day..at breakfast and was thinking of
cutting that down in size.
How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.
I believe coffee maker cups are 6oz, whereas a normal measure is 8oz.
There are 32oz, or 4 cups in a quart.

So, your 12 cup coffeemaker actually makes only 72oz, and not 96oz as
it should.


I just checked with a measuring cup. The Black and Decker coffee maker
uses 4oz "cups". A full 12 cup carafe is 48 oz although I usually end
up filling it more than that. It actually holds closer to 14 "cups".
Taking this science fair project a step farther I weighed the normal
coffee charge and it is right at one oz by weight (Maxwell House drip
grind) for that pot of coffee. That makes a pot of coffee about 15
cents if you catch a sale. ($5.99 for 39 oz can)
I know when we charged a quarter a mug (4 cups or so) at our shop we
ended up with a tidy profit that we spent on a cookout lunch a few
times a year.



Maybe you should set up an investigatory committee.



This reads like the one I use:

# Three Brew Size Choices:
6 oz, 8 oz, 10 oz *
# Removable 48oz. Water Reservoir
# Programmable LCD Message Center
# Removable Drip Tray
# Blue backlit LCD & Water Reservoir
# Chrome Accents
# Quiet Brew™ Technology

www.keurig.com

I brew 8 ounce cups of coffee.

Bill McKee January 7th 10 06:11 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 

"mgg" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"mgg" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.

Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal kayaks.
Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling for trout.
No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. And only caught one
nice bass.


What's the lake level like at New Melones? It was waaay low when I was
last there in August.

--Mike


Down 125'.


Yikes. Good thing it's pretty deep.

--Mike


Yup. My buddy had the fishfinder on his boat, and we were in some deep
water not far from the shore We also were checking his new housboat. And
it is near the back of the cove, still plenty of water. He lost the last
houseboat when the mooring cable broke and his boat along with some others
were fouled. Wind rolled his boat. destroyed completely. Where it rolled
is now only about 70' deep, so he is thinking of taking the dive gear up.



John H[_12_] January 7th 10 06:14 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:37:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 7, 7:20*am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. *But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. *I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. *Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. *We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. *Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. *No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. *And only
caught one nice bass.


You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.


What would you suggest? PBJ?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.


Well, no bread is good, but in general, the heavier the bread the
better it is. Panera makes a good multigrain bread. So does Costco. I
guy the stuff from Costco, slice it and freeze it. Then I toast it
before eating. Peanut butter has become a real treat - maybe once
every two weeks, if I've been good.

John H[_12_] January 7th 10 06:16 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:41:57 -0500, Jim wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. And only
caught one nice bass.
You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.
What would you suggest? PBJ?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.



I like wonder bread smeared with just mayo.


Gosh. That sounds like something Harry'd say. Oh, eternal-september,
thunderbird, and a Mac.

Good hiding, Harry.

Tim January 7th 10 06:19 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 12:14*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:37:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





On Jan 7, 7:20*am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. *Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. *Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. *So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.


Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. *But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. *I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. *Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. *We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. *Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. *No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. *And only
caught one nice bass.


You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.


What would you suggest? PBJ?


--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.


Well, no bread is good, but in general, the heavier the bread the
better it is. Panera makes a good multigrain bread. So does Costco. I
guy the stuff from Costco, slice it and freeze it. Then I toast it
before eating. Peanut butter has become a real treat - maybe once
every two weeks, if I've been good.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I used to get whole wheat bread but have since switched over o multi-
grains. I'm still trying to find what I really like, but haven't been
disapointed really with any of it.

I don't even like the thought of peanut butter anymore.

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 06:22 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
John H wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:41:57 -0500, Jim wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.
Since I retired I do not drink anywhere's the amount of coffee I used
to. And still rarely drink alcohol. But one nice thing about losing
the Christmas weight gain. I am using Costco's brand SlimFast for
breakfast and lunch. Yesterday my buddy and I went up to New Melones
lake for some trout and bass fishing. We used the Hobie pedal
kayaks. Was easy to imbibe lunch while pedaling along and trolling
for trout. No fooling around with cutting bread or cheese. And only
caught one nice bass.
You know, you can make sandwiches ahead of time and wrap them so they
don't get soggy in the cooler. Really.
What would you suggest? PBJ?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
I like PBJ's but I cut them out too.


I like wonder bread smeared with just mayo.


Gosh. That sounds like something Harry'd say. Oh, eternal-september,
thunderbird, and a Mac.

Good hiding, Harry.


Hiding? Me? Bull****. If I wanted to hide and spoof here, I'd use a
different usenet posting client. What I suspect is that you have to look
at the headers...and that's a minor annoyance...and if you have to it
enough...

It wouldn't be easy for me to write as badly as you, flajim, and the
other right-wing assholes here.


Loogypicker[_2_] January 7th 10 06:40 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Jan 7, 12:43*pm, Harry wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:35:28 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:


On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500, wrote:


How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.
I make a pot in the morning and pour it into a vacuum flask. That way
it oxidises less and doesn't evaporate at all. It is also in arms
reach and can go on the road.


Casady

That's also *what we do


We got some single "K-cup" brewers a couple of years ago. My wife uses
hers for tea, and I use mine for the one or two cups of coffee I drink
weekdays. They are really nice...hot coffee (tea) when you want it, and
nothing sitting around in a flask, getting stronger and stronger. 30 to
35 cents a cup. When I run out of k-cups, I just use instant coffee and
the cup of hot water the machine dispenses.

keurig machines. I've seen them for well under $100...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry the gourmand uses instant coffee!!!! Damn that's funny!
I wouldn't drink that nasty **** for anything.

Harry[_2_] January 7th 10 07:44 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
Harry wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:35:28 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500,
wrote:

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.
I make a pot in the morning and pour it into a vacuum flask. That way
it oxidises less and doesn't evaporate at all. It is also in arms
reach and can go on the road.

Casady

That's also what we do



We got some single "K-cup" brewers a couple of years ago. My wife uses
hers for tea, and I use mine for the one or two cups of coffee I drink
weekdays. They are really nice...hot coffee (tea) when you want it, and
nothing sitting around in a flask, getting stronger and stronger. 30 to
35 cents a cup. When I run out of k-cups, I just use instant coffee and
the cup of hot water the machine dispenses.

keurig machines. I've seen them for well under $100...


That much eh? Must be pretty spechull. Brews 1 cup eh?

--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.

John H[_12_] January 7th 10 08:32 PM

Caffeine withdrawal
 
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:49:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:21:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:33:43 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
First New Years resolution I ever made, to give up alcohol and drink
far less coffee. Both were giving me serious heartburn and it had
gotten so I cannot even drink beer because of it. Considering I prob
have more caffeine in my blood than hemoglobin, it had to be alcohol I
gave up but 12 cups of coffee a day probably is too much. So, with
only 3 cups in the morning and it being too cold outside to do
anything am feelin a bit tense.

Say what!
12 cups a day???
I drink one large cup a day..at breakfast and was thinking of cutting that
down in size.

How big is a cup?
I am probably up around 8-10 cups a day. We have a "12 cup" maker, my
wife takes 16 oz with her to work and I drink the rest throughout the
day.


I believe coffee maker cups are 6oz, whereas a normal measure is 8oz.
There are 32oz, or 4 cups in a quart.

So, your 12 cup coffeemaker actually makes only 72oz, and not 96oz as
it should.


I just checked with a measuring cup. The Black and Decker coffee maker
uses 4oz "cups". A full 12 cup carafe is 48 oz although I usually end
up filling it more than that. It actually holds closer to 14 "cups".
Taking this science fair project a step farther I weighed the normal
coffee charge and it is right at one oz by weight (Maxwell House drip
grind) for that pot of coffee. That makes a pot of coffee about 15
cents if you catch a sale. ($5.99 for 39 oz can)
I know when we charged a quarter a mug (4 cups or so) at our shop we
ended up with a tidy profit that we spent on a cookout lunch a few
times a year.


Damn. Now you've got me wondering.

Eight cups in my Starbucks pot is 48oz. So, Starbucks considers 6oz of
coffee to be a 'cup'. The coffeemaker we have holds 12 6oz cups, and
is called a 12 cup coffeemaker. I guess if it had a Black and Decker
label it would be an 18 cup coffeemaker.

Huh. Never knew that.


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