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Healthcare Bill
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:27:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 21, 11:02*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute??" Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep, that's what I'm saying. Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know how much pork is in the package, but it seems to me that there's a whole lot of porkin' going on. And from past history, it seems that when the govt. gets in the porking business, somebody is going to get porked really good. and I'd say that the US taxpayer is the one who will eventually get porked.... in the end. Tim, there have been several posts to give you an idea of the amount of pork in the package. The Democrats bought off a lot of Democrats. Probably any newspaper will give an accounting, but the posts already made should go a long way to answering the question. -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
Healthcare Bill
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:54:41 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote: In article , says... "Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk wrote: In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777 @c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says... Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. You have got to be kidding... I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible that the republicans would put pork in a bill???? Reply: What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill? I think Loogie is being spoofed here. Yup, I think nomdeplum is spoofing Loogy just to make it appear they both have a little sense. However the post of Loogy/the plum shows better. -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
Healthcare Bill
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:29:44 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: This will be interesting. I don't know who stuck what into who, but. Anyway, Will "coverage" mean "health care?" I'm wondering if it will be two different things. You might just have to wait until it's done. So far, it ain't. --Vic |
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