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Healthcare Bill
On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? |
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On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? OK, this one? "Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute??" Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute to buy the Dem votes needed last night. That the bill now has 373 new pages of last minute Dem pork. That no Republicans were bought off with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. Yep, that's what I'm saying. Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it, right? |
Healthcare Bill
On Dec 21, 11:02*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute??" Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep, that's what I'm saying. Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know how much pork is in the package, but it seems to me that there's a whole lot of porkin' going on. And from past history, it seems that when the govt. gets in the porking business, somebody is going to get porked really good. and I'd say that the US taxpayer is the one who will eventually get porked.... in the end. |
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On 12/21/09 12:27 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:02 am, wrote: On Dec 21, 11:41 am, wrote: On Dec 21, 10:40 am, wrote: On Dec 21, 10:24 am, wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00 am, wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04 am, wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? OK, this one? "Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute??" Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute to buy the Dem votes needed last night. That the bill now has 373 new pages of last minute Dem pork. That no Republicans were bought off with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. Yep, that's what I'm saying. Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know how much pork is in the package, but it seems to me that there's a whole lot of porkin' going on. And from past history, it seems that when the govt. gets in the porking business, somebody is going to get porked really good. and I'd say that the US taxpayer is the one who will eventually get porked.... in the end. We're in the third year of the Bush's Great Recession, jobs are tight, unemployment is high, and if it takes pork to put people back to work, I'm in favor of it. Hopefully, none of it will be spent in predominately Republican congressional districts. Let the Republicans eat cake. |
Healthcare Bill
On Dec 21, 12:02*pm, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute??" Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep, that's what I'm saying. No republicans were bought off with pork??? Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. Wanted to test the waters, so to speak, and see how many conservatives would either deny it happened, or kill the messenger. That would be any who have replied. |
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On Dec 21, 12:56*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 12:02*pm, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote: Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. Like this? "For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions of dollars." Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute?? Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes? From Newsmax: Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for Democrats WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits. He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just didn't want to answer my question, huh? OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the bill at the last minute??" Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep, that's what I'm saying. No republicans were bought off with pork??? Nope. None voted for this, remember? If one had been bought off, that would not be the case, by definition. Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. Wanted to test the waters, so to speak, and see how many conservatives would either deny it happened, or kill the messenger. That would be any who have replied. Oh, so when you wrote "Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass." you lied, and now you admit it. OK. In the end, exactly the opposite happened, the Dems stacked up the pork, not the Republicans. Thanks for finally admitting that. |
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk wrote: In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777 @c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says... Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. You have got to be kidding... I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible that the republicans would put pork in a bill???? Reply: What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill? |
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Bill McKee wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk wrote: In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777 @c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says... Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass. You have got to be kidding... I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible that the republicans would put pork in a bill???? Reply: What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill? He has no idea of the facts, just commenting to hear himself comment. |
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