On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote:

Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

Like this?

"For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in
massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion
of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote
of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill
that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new
Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions
of dollars."

Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the
bill at the last minute??

Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork
bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes?

From Newsmax:

Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for
Democrats

WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name
in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are
big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance
Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer
from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining
operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute
amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill
to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation
designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to
30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow
interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining
power.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just didn't want to answer my question, huh?

On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote:



On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote:

Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

Like this?

"For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in
massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion
of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote
of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill
that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new
Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions
of dollars."

Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the
bill at the last minute??

Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork
bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes?

From Newsmax:

Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for
Democrats

WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name
in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are
big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance
Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer
from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining
operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute
amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill
to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation
designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to
30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow
interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining
power.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just didn't want to answer my question, huh?

OK, this one? "Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put
pork into the
bill at the last minute??"

Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for
themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute
to buy the Dem votes needed last night. That the bill now has 373 new
pages of last minute Dem pork. That no Republicans were bought off
with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. Yep,
that's what I'm saying.

Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute
pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it,
right?

On Dec 21, 11:02*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote:

Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

Like this?

"For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in
massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion
of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote
of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill
that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new
Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions
of dollars."

Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the
bill at the last minute??

Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork
bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes?

From Newsmax:

Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for
Democrats

WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name
in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are
big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance
Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer
from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining
operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute
amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill
to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation
designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to
30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow
interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining
power.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just didn't want to answer my question, huh?

OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put
pork into the
bill at the last minute??"

Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for
themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute
to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new
pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off
with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep,
that's what I'm saying.

Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute
pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it,
right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't know how much pork is in the package, but it seems to me that
there's a whole lot of porkin' going on. And from past history, it
seems that when the govt. gets in the porking business, somebody is
going to get porked really good. and I'd say that the US taxpayer is
the one who will eventually get porked.... in the end.

On 12/21/09 12:27 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:02 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:41 am, wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:40 am, wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:24 am, wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:00 am, wrote:

On Dec 21, 9:04 am, wrote:

Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

Like this?

"For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in
massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion
of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote
of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill
that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new
Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions
of dollars."

Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the
bill at the last minute??

Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork
bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes?

From Newsmax:

Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for
Democrats

WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name
in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are
big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance
Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer
from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining
operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute
amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill
to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation
designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to
30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow
interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining
power.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just didn't want to answer my question, huh?

OK, this one? "Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put
pork into the
bill at the last minute??"

Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for
themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute
to buy the Dem votes needed last night. That the bill now has 373 new
pages of last minute Dem pork. That no Republicans were bought off
with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. Yep,
that's what I'm saying.

Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute
pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it,
right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't know how much pork is in the package, but it seems to me that
there's a whole lot of porkin' going on. And from past history, it
seems that when the govt. gets in the porking business, somebody is
going to get porked really good. and I'd say that the US taxpayer is
the one who will eventually get porked.... in the end.


We're in the third year of the Bush's Great Recession, jobs are tight,
unemployment is high, and if it takes pork to put people back to work,
I'm in favor of it. Hopefully, none of it will be spent in predominately
Republican congressional districts. Let the Republicans eat cake.

On Dec 21, 12:02*pm, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote:

Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

Like this?

"For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in
massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion
of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote
of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill
that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new
Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions
of dollars."

Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the
bill at the last minute??

Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork
bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes?

From Newsmax:

Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for
Democrats

WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name
in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are
big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance
Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer
from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining
operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute
amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill
to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation
designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to
30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow
interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining
power.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just didn't want to answer my question, huh?

OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put
pork into the
bill at the last minute??"

Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for
themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute
to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new
pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off
with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep,
that's what I'm saying.

No republicans were bought off with pork???




Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute
pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it,
right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope. Wanted to test the waters, so to speak, and see how many
conservatives would either deny it happened, or kill the messenger.
That would be any who have replied.

On Dec 21, 12:56*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 12:02*pm, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 11:41*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:40*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:24*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 21, 10:00*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 21, 9:04*am, Loogypicker wrote:

Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

Like this?

"For example, Georgia and most states will face billions of dollars in
massive unfunded mandates to cover the cost of the proposed expansion
of Medicaid contained in the bill. However, in order to win the vote
of Senator Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Reid inserted a provision in the bill
that says the federal government would cover the cost of all new
Medicaid beneficiaries in Nebraska, saving that state tens of millions
of dollars."

Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put pork into the
bill at the last minute??

Loogy, are you saying that the Dems didn't pass out tons of pork
bribes to other Dems in back room deals to secure the needed votes?

From Newsmax:

Healthcare Pork: Senate Bill Laden with Favors, Pet Projects for
Democrats

WASHINGTON – The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name
in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but its 2,900 citizens are
big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance
Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents, many of whom suffer
from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining
operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute
amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill
to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation
designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to
30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow
interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining
power.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just didn't want to answer my question, huh?

OK, this one? *"Jack, are you saying that the republicans didn't put
pork into the
bill at the last minute??"

Nope, what I'm saying is that the Dems loaded the bill up on pork for
themselves during the whole process, and especially at the last minute
to buy the Dem votes needed last night. *That the bill now has 373 new
pages of last minute Dem pork. *That no Republicans were bought off
with pork, and that none of them voted yes on this Dem pork. *Yep,
that's what I'm saying.

No republicans were bought off with pork???

Nope. None voted for this, remember? If one had been bought off,
that would not be the case, by definition.


Besides, if you actually had any proof of this supposed last-minute
pork added by Republicans, you'd be posting quotes and links to it,
right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope. Wanted to test the waters, so to speak, and see how many
conservatives would either deny it happened, or kill the messenger.
That would be any who have replied.

Oh, so when you wrote "Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able
to stack enough pork into the healthcare bill that it will now pass."
you lied, and now you admit it. OK.

In the end, exactly the opposite happened, the Dems stacked up the
pork, not the Republicans. Thanks for finally admitting that.

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777
@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...



Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

You have got to be kidding...

I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible
that the republicans would put pork in a bill????


Reply:
What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill?

Bill McKee wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777
@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...



Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.
You have got to be kidding...

I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible
that the republicans would put pork in a bill????


Reply:
What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill?

He has no idea of the facts, just commenting to hear himself comment.

In article ,
says...

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777
@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...



Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.

You have got to be kidding...

I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible
that the republicans would put pork in a bill????


Reply:
What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill?

I think Loogie is being spoofed here.

I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Dec 21, 10:55 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 7fe12fab-1c72-42a4-9072-8a3bbca0f777
@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...



Well, it looks like a few Republicans were able to stack enough pork
into the healthcare bill that it will now pass.
You have got to be kidding...
I'm not kidding one little bit. Why, do you find it just incredible
that the republicans would put pork in a bill????


Reply:
What pork and which Republicans voted for the bill?

I think Loogie is being spoofed here.

I got porked, but then Harry had to go home.