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Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
On Dec 20, 11:32*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. *I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. *I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. *But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. *It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. *But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. *Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. *The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. *All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. *In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. *Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. *Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. *Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? *I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. *All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. *After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume For some indication of how they have tortured the data to make it conform to warming theory, look at this blog about temps at Darwin in Oz: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...er/#more-14358 |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
On Dec 20, 11:32*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. *I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. *I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. *But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. *It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. *But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. *Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. *The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. *All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. *In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. *Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. *Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. *Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? *I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. *All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. *After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume Nom needs to familiarize herself with warming theory that says that anthropogenic CO2 levels before the mid 20th century were insufficient to cause anything. There actually are records of CO2 levels in the 20th century so we do know it has increased in the 20th century and the warmites agree that levels before 1900 were too low to have any effect. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
On Dec 20, 11:32*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. *I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. *I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. *But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. *It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. *But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. *Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. *The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. *All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. *In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. *Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. *Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. *Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? *I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. *All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. *After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume Considering that we now know that Wiki was heavily censored by warmites, references using Wiki should no longer be used to support any part of this argument. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
On Dec 20, 11:53*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:32*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. *I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. *I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. *But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. *It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. *But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. *Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. *The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. *All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. *In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. *Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. *Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. *Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? *I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. *All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. *After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume Considering that we now know that Wiki was heavily censored by warmites, references using Wiki should no longer be used to support any part of this argument. Oh, Nom, it is not H1N1 and monkees, it is HIV and monkees. H1N1 is associated with pigs. Do I really have to explain such basic stuff? |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Harry" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:15 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 20, 4:03 pm, "Bill wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. I defy anybody to show me tide guage data showing seal level rise increase since 1900. I defy anybody to show me tree ring data showing warming since 1960. So, THERE IS NO evidence for AGW at all. If you believe there is, then show me the data. Put up or shut up. Here ya go, Mr. Science Junior: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Re...Level_Rise.png Go ahead...dispute that data, and in as complete a fashion. Put up or shut up. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...d-5078af9cb409 Yeah, he's got an opinion. He's a right wing nutcase. He's outnumbered by the science. Good for you. Show us some science. Put up or shut up Bill. -- Nom=de=Plume You put up or shut up. Your play. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Harry" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:15 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 20, 4:03 pm, "Bill wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. I defy anybody to show me tide guage data showing seal level rise increase since 1900. I defy anybody to show me tree ring data showing warming since 1960. So, THERE IS NO evidence for AGW at all. If you believe there is, then show me the data. Put up or shut up. Here ya go, Mr. Science Junior: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Re...Level_Rise.png Go ahead...dispute that data, and in as complete a fashion. Put up or shut up. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...d-5078af9cb409 Yeah, he's got an opinion. He's a right wing nutcase. He's outnumbered by the science. Good for you. Show us some science. Put up or shut up Bill. -- Nom=de=Plume You put up or shut up. Your play. Sorry Bill. I know you're somewhat slow. I think I made my point and already "put up." -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Why would I care? I don't need to know what you claim to have done. Is Bill M. even your real name? FYI, you don't have to claim to be less than bright. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume For some indication of how they have tortured the data to make it conform to warming theory, look at this blog about temps at Darwin in Oz: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...er/#more-14358 A blog?? A blog???? -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume Nom needs to familiarize herself with warming theory that says that anthropogenic CO2 levels before the mid 20th century were insufficient to cause anything. There actually are records of CO2 levels in the 20th century so we do know it has increased in the 20th century and the warmites agree that levels before 1900 were too low to have any effect. Froggy needs to visit the planet Reality from time to time. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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