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Harry[_2_] December 21st 09 05:38 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 
In article ,
says...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 1dddf292-5d41-4cd1-8fe1-350529acec14
@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm
the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly
complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have
"peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the
other AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...

Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting
your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only
one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook
some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.
Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't
know
for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it
scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way
that
they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2
recovery
plants and the like.

Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need
to
believe in something that is actually a good thing.

Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship
of -35C in Florida.

Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate
change.

Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't
getting
warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what
you
subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any
point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable.

But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All
you
have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case,
governments raising taxes.

Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was
cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on
this
planet anyways.

I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it
hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it
is
warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be
more
worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on
glaciers.
Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North
America presents a logitstical problem.

It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to
greed,
junk science, fraud and government taxation.

Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After
all,
what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to
manage the herds for money.

How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2
brain?

I think you should immediately stop paying taxes.

--
Nom=de=Plume

For some indication of how they have tortured the data to make it
conform to warming theory, look at this blog about temps at Darwin in
Oz:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...er/#more-14358


I just don't understand why half the country would rather believe
scientists who have been proved to be frauds, instead of ones who
haven't.. Drives me nuts...



Because they haven't. There were only a few involved in the email situation,
and even those emails were cherry-picked.


You tell the little schitt, darling....

--
And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they
use my handle here.

Don White December 21st 09 06:11 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other
AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.

Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.


It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.

And it might even be a blessing in disguise!


What?

How so?

Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk
science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull****
fraudsters.



Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.


I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider
our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they
just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.


** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.



Bill McKee December 21st 09 06:27 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Geoduck" wrote in message
m...
On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
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...
wrote in message
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Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm
the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly
complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have
"peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the
other AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...

Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting
your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only
one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.

Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook
some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.

And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the
issue
without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is
about
money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion.
That
isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS.

Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have
evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas
would get
most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in
norther US or Canada in January?

Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt
mankind.
Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would
even
become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C.

Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government
love in
for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always
follow
the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by
government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon
credits it
is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government
like
ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests
will
absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the
Earth and
eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality.


Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of
the
deniers. Good for you!


--
Nom=de=Plume


You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible.



Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to
you...



It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who
*claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the
thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually
discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort,
though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at
shape-ups to work on home improvement projects.

Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering
spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied
workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech
and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more
than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam.


Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't
you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search.


Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William
McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that
name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent
attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I
said previously.

Here you go...

http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2

I'm going to sleep...

--
Nom=de=Plume


Try again. Wrong patents.



Don White[_3_] December 21st 09 06:28 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other
AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.

It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!

What?

How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk
science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull****
fraudsters.

Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.

I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider
our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they
just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.


** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.


Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost
in Space", what a dope.

This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.

Harry[_2_] December 21st 09 06:39 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 
In article ,
says...

Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other
AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.

It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!

What?

How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk
science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull****
fraudsters.

Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.
I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider
our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they
just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.


** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.


Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost
in Space", what a dope.

This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.


I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns.

--
And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they
use my handle here.

Don White[_3_] December 21st 09 07:51 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 
Harry wrote:
In article ,
says...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other
AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.
It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!
What?

How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk
science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull****
fraudsters.
Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.
I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider
our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they
just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.
** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.


Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost
in Space", what a dope.

This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.


I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns.

Yah, you and Dick Chaney.

Don White December 21st 09 07:57 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm
the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly
complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have
"peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the
other
AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting
your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only
one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook
some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.

It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!

What?

How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some
of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000
years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising,
it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and
southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in
Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound
to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such
as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and
so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green
salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant
life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead
mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we
as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil
records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a
metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars,
even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon,
imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far
too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology.
As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many
of
the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds
off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the
flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real
issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for
profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets
hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is
squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk
science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to
bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it
isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to
bull****
fraudsters.

Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.
I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider
our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they
just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.


** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.

Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in
Space", what a dope.

This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.


** jackass alert**



Don White December 21st 09 07:57 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
In article ,
says...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm
the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly
complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have
"peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's
thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the
other
AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting
your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only
one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook
some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.
It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will
reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!
What?

How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some
of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000
years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as
evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is
rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff,
try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when
the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will
increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and
southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and
more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in
Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters.
Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in
Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound
to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most
countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras
such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels
and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles
enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial
period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus
would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green
salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant
life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the
coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead
mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we
as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main
ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to
suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil
records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a
metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars,
even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon,
imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far
too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology.
As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like
many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no
boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds
off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the
flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real
issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they
will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out,
just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for
profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin
holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets
hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it
wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is
squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk
junk
science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to
bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it
isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to
bull****
fraudsters.
Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.
I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always
consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army
where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a
difference.
** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.

Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost
in Space", what a dope.

This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.


I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns.

Yah, you and Dick Chaney.


** jackass alert **



Loogypicker[_2_] December 21st 09 07:59 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 
On Dec 21, 2:51*pm, Don White wrote:
Harry wrote:
In article ,
says...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
news:7cednTQv6IgtNrLWnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d@giganews. com...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.


Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other
AGW
types to defend this.


http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...


Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one
side of the "science" is presented.


Go ahead - defend this.


I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.
It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!
What?


How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.


http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html


Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.


Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.


Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.


As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad
to feed herds of these.


The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.


But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.


My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg


Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.


We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.


But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk
science.


So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull****
fraudsters.
Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.
I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider
our opinion. * It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they
just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.
** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. *If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.


Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost
in Space", what a dope.


This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.


I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns.


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Loogypicker[_2_] December 21st 09 09:20 PM

Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
 
On Dec 21, 2:57*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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Harry wrote:
In article ,
says...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
news:7cednTQv6IgtNrLWnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d@giganews .com...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm
the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly
complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a
corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have
"peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's
thesis
in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.


Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the
other
AGW
types to defend this.


http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...


Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting
your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most
widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only
one
side of the "science" is presented.


Go ahead - defend this.


I'll wait.
Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook
some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.
It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will
reach
some troublesome level.
And it might even be a blessing in disguise!
What?


How so?
Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some
of
this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.


http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html


Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000
years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as
evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is
rising, it
may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff,
try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when
the
water hits -5C and expands.


Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will
increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and
southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and
more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in
Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters.
Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.


Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in
Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.


As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound
to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most
countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras
such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels
and so
much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles
enjoyed
the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial
period
where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus
would
eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green
salad
to feed herds of these.


The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant
life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the
coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead
mater
cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man
made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we
as
humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main
ingredient
is carbon as is the roast beef.


But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to
suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil
records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a
metor
here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.


My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars,
even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon,
imagine
the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far
too
much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and
social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and
populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology.
As
one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like
many of
the the mass extinction events in the past.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg


Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no
boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds
off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the
flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real
issues.
Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they
will
hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.


We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck..
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out,
just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for
profit.


But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin
holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets
hope
the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it
wasn't
that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is
squat
in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk
junk
science.


So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to
bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it
isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to
bull****
fraudsters.
Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will
consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of
Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma.
I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always
consider our opinion. * It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army
where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a
difference.
** Warning... Warning**
The jackasses are now spoofing me. *If the post you read seems stupid,
assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting
under my name.


Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost
in Space", what a dope.


This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt.


I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns.


Yah, you and Dick Chaney.


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