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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:00 -0500, I am Tosk
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:16:01 -0600, thunder
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:22 -0500, John H wrote:


Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown
a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are
seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there
is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care
reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not
helping the "Party of No".

Don't be too sad. I'm OK.

If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care plan, it would
probably pass. To blame the non-passage on the Republicans is very
Reid-like, but also bull****.

If this health plan is so great, why hasn't it been made public? Why are
Republican senators prevented from seeing the bill?

Read this. It's from a liberal newspaper, so it must be true.

http://tinyurl.com/y8tlw2l

In the meantime, keep blaming the Republicans for the bill not passing.
Not even Howard Dean does that.

Read for content, John. I didn't blame the Republicans for the bill not
passing. The Republican party is irrelevant, and it will remain
irrelevant until they get there house in order. Pandering to their
"base", all 20% of the population, will keep them irrelevant.

You're right. I misread. I thought your reference to the "Party of No"
was a jab at Republicans. But it seems as if the Democrats are doing
it to themselves.

If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would
pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of
daylight.

I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned about
the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
thinkers...

They won't address the fact that the bill is kept hidden.

Yet they'll talk about Republicans 'blindly' doing this or that. If
pushing an unseen bill isn't 'blindly' following, then I don't know
what it.

I remember they made huge over Cheney and energy experts having secret
meetings, now everything is a secret meeting, even the law to be signed
is secret. How can fair minded folks tolerate it? It's silly..