In article 15924f43-92b2-4d45-941c-2e6538b91760
@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 18, 1:23*pm, Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:06:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:00 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned about
the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
thinkers...
Is this the first time you have paid attention to the legislative
process? *Frankly, this is how it's done. *It's ugly, untidy, but there's
nothing new here. *

Bull****. But if you have to defend them, it's as good a bull**** as
anyone puts out.

Blindly following, indeed!

I was HOPEing for Some CHANGE up there but it seems like it's business
as usual. Oh Well.- Hide quoted text -

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Yep, the right will do anything at any cost to derail anything the
left does, not matter how good it is, how many people will benefit, or
what it will do.

It seems arrogant of you to assume that nobody can have a truly opposing
point of view. And when one is as one sided as "some here", everybody
will seem to be on the "other side"....

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:51 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

Garbage. "If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo.
It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It doesn't sound
much like they are interested in health care, just interested in
defeating Obama.

Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio... We
don't...

No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.

Wow, pretty tame compared to what Murtha and that moron from Florida
have said

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:38:19 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:51 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

Garbage. "If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his
Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It
doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just
interested in defeating Obama.

Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio...
We don't...

No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.

Wow, pretty tame compared to what Murtha and that moron from Florida
have said

Hey, I never said it was a big deal. I did use it to dispute John's
statement "an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from
both sides". I don't buy it. IMO, the Republicans would vote No on
anything the Democrats proposed.

On 12/18/09 8:56 PM, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:38:19 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In inet,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:51 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

Garbage. "If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his
Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It
doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just
interested in defeating Obama.

Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio...
We don't...

No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.

Wow, pretty tame compared to what Murtha and that moron from Florida
have said

Hey, I never said it was a big deal. I did use it to dispute John's
statement "an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from
both sides". I don't buy it. IMO, the Republicans would vote No on
anything the Democrats proposed.


There's a fairly long blog here that explains why there is no GOP health
care plan alternative:


http://www.anonymousliberal.com/

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:38:19 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:51 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

Garbage. "If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his
Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It
doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just
interested in defeating Obama.

Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio...
We don't...

No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.

Wow, pretty tame compared to what Murtha and that moron from Florida
have said

Hey, I never said it was a big deal. I did use it to dispute John's
statement "an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from
both sides". I don't buy it. IMO, the Republicans would vote No on
anything the Democrats proposed.


It wouldn't just be an opinion. It's a guarantee, which is sad.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:00 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:


I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned
about
the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
thinkers...

Is this the first time you have paid attention to the legislative
process? Frankly, this is how it's done. It's ugly, untidy, but there's
nothing new here.

Sunshine and openness were the footblocks of Obama's campaign. You hold
repubs more accountable for screwing around on their wives because they
campaign on "family values", so we can hold you to "change and
openness", right??


He's an order of magnitude more open than the Bush adm.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Dec 18, 8:38*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:51 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

Garbage. *"If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo.
It will break him." *Want to guess who said that? *It doesn't sound
much like they are interested in health care, just interested in
defeating Obama.

Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio... We
don't...

No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.

Wow, pretty tame compared to what Murtha and that moron from Florida
have said

What does what Murtha has to say have anything to do with what DeMint
has to say?

On Dec 18, 8:36*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 15924f43-92b2-4d45-941c-2e6538b91760
@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says...







On Dec 18, 1:23*pm, Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:06:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:00 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned about
the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
thinkers...
Is this the first time you have paid attention to the legislative
process? *Frankly, this is how it's done. *It's ugly, untidy, but there's
nothing new here. *

Bull****. But if you have to defend them, it's as good a bull**** as
anyone puts out.

Blindly following, indeed!

I was HOPEing for Some CHANGE up there but it seems like it's business
as usual. Oh Well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep, the right will do anything at any cost to derail anything the
left does, not matter how good it is, how many people will benefit, or
what it will do.

It seems arrogant of you to assume that nobody can have a truly opposing
point of view. And when one is as one sided as "some here", everybody
will seem to be on the "other side"....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

When did I say that someone can't have an opposing point of view?

In article 1136ce5d-9ae4-46d0-a90f-ab3f55cc54f4
@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 18, 8:36*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 15924f43-92b2-4d45-941c-2e6538b91760
@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says...







On Dec 18, 1:23*pm, Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:06:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:00 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned about
the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
thinkers...
Is this the first time you have paid attention to the legislative
process? *Frankly, this is how it's done. *It's ugly, untidy, but there's
nothing new here. *

Bull****. But if you have to defend them, it's as good a bull**** as
anyone puts out.

Blindly following, indeed!

I was HOPEing for Some CHANGE up there but it seems like it's business
as usual. Oh Well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep, the right will do anything at any cost to derail anything the
left does, not matter how good it is, how many people will benefit, or
what it will do.

It seems arrogant of you to assume that nobody can have a truly opposing
point of view. And when one is as one sided as "some here", everybody
will seem to be on the "other side"....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

When did I say that someone can't have an opposing point of view?

You have stated several times that folks who have opposing points of
view must either be "lying or uninformed", never admitting that there
could be a legitimate "opposing point of view"...

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:38:19 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:32:51 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

Garbage. "If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his
Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It
doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just
interested in defeating Obama.

Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio...
We don't...

No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.

Wow, pretty tame compared to what Murtha and that moron from Florida
have said

Hey, I never said it was a big deal. I did use it to dispute John's
statement "an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from
both sides". I don't buy it. IMO, the Republicans would vote No on
anything the Democrats proposed.

Maybe if the dems had let them into the meetings and allowed some of
their core ideas into the bill. It's not hard to see that they were
totally shut out of the whole process...