On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:34:50 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:


Is trying to ensure that all Americans have access to health care.

Looks like Joe Leiberman is running that show.
Might just end up where the insurance and pharma companies get direct
access to the taxpayers' wallets through enforced and subsidized
health insurance. 30 million new policies I hear.
Like Wall Street got massively into workers' pockets with the 401k
plans.
But that was voluntary, and fits the "sucker born every minute" rule.
With enforced insurance premiums to the health insurance companies,
and taxpayer subsidies to pay them, this is a bit different.
Sweet deal for the health insurance and pharma corporations.
I'm a bit surprised Obama swings that way.
But he is the President, and can lead how he wants to.

--Vic

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:23:15 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:34:50 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:


Is trying to ensure that all Americans have access to health care.

Looks like Joe Leiberman is running that show.
Might just end up where the insurance and pharma companies get direct
access to the taxpayers' wallets through enforced and subsidized
health insurance. 30 million new policies I hear.
Like Wall Street got massively into workers' pockets with the 401k
plans.
But that was voluntary, and fits the "sucker born every minute" rule.
With enforced insurance premiums to the health insurance companies,
and taxpayer subsidies to pay them, this is a bit different.
Sweet deal for the health insurance and pharma corporations.
I'm a bit surprised Obama swings that way.
But he is the President, and can lead how he wants to.

--Vic



Here's a quick breakout of the '45 million uninsured' we keep hearing
about from the liberal press.

http://tinyurl.com/y95lema

Wonder if 30 million will pick up policies in lieu of jail time?
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John H

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:34:50 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Closing the torture camp Gitmo

Lucky for Obama that Rod Blagojevich isn't around to cut that Illinois
prison deal. Barrack probably got a good deal for the feds.
Blago would have got a better deal for Illinoisans - think that's how
you call us, if we're from Illinois.
Would have made that Landreau gal from Louisiana look like a piker.
I suspect Blago would have started the negotiations at maybe 5 big
ones. Yeah, $5 billion. That's what I'm talking about.

--Vic

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:54:35 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:34:50 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Closing the torture camp Gitmo

Lucky for Obama that Rod Blagojevich isn't around to cut that Illinois
prison deal. Barrack probably got a good deal for the feds.
Blago would have got a better deal for Illinoisans - think that's how
you call us, if we're from Illinois.
Would have made that Landreau gal from Louisiana look like a piker.
I suspect Blago would have started the negotiations at maybe 5 big
ones. Yeah, $5 billion. That's what I'm talking about.

--Vic

And the negotiations would have concluded with the feds offering to
not send him to jail for extortion in exchange for free terrorist
housing.

He would get to keep his hair.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:34:50 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:


Shifted the war focus from Iraq BACK TO Afghanistan where we needed to
be.

Just heard that Obama is increasing the war contractor ranks to
unprecedented levels.
Guy who wrote the Blackwater book was talking on MSNBC.
Said both Obama and Hillary were railing about them when they were
campaigning. Now Blackwater guards Hillary when she's overseas.
Calls them "War Corporations." There's about 600 of the corporations,
doing everything from cooking to fighting for the military. Big
money.
Said it'll stay that way without bringing the draft back.
Just what he said, as I don't know the details.
Wish there had been a Blackwater chef on my Navy can.
Surely would have been an improvement in the cuisine.
fart Just had a big bowl of Navy bean soup my wife brought home
from work. Now she's a cook. Blackwater or Navy can't touch her.

--Vic

On Dec 14, 3:40*pm, John H wrote:
There must be a lot of stupid people in the USA, 'cause 'Bama's
approval ratings aren't looking too good. Seems like folks just don't
appreciate all the great things he is doing for his country, like
trying to sell it out at Copenhagen.

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday
shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that
Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent
(42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index
rating of -18."

http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b
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John H


Your President Obama has the largest presidential approval ratings
freefall. Obama has dropped 21 points in 11 months.

Former president Carter only dropped 14 points in his first 11 months.
Mr. Obama is making Carter look good.

Here are inauguration day approval numbers, December numbers, and the
change from inauguration day until December for each of the presidents
—

IKE 66 60 -6
KENNEDY 72 78 6
NIXON 60 60 0
CARTER 69 55 -14
REAGAN 53 49 -4
BUSH 1 63 70 7
CLINTON 55 55 0
BUSH 2 59 85 26
OBAMA 68 47 -21

The above numbers are from Gallup poll data.

Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 14, 3:40 pm, John H wrote:
There must be a lot of stupid people in the USA, 'cause 'Bama's
approval ratings aren't looking too good. Seems like folks just don't
appreciate all the great things he is doing for his country, like
trying to sell it out at Copenhagen.

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday
shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that
Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent
(42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index
rating of -18."

http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b
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John H


Your President Obama has the largest presidential approval ratings
freefall. Obama has dropped 21 points in 11 months.

Former president Carter only dropped 14 points in his first 11 months.
Mr. Obama is making Carter look good.

Here are inauguration day approval numbers, December numbers, and the
change from inauguration day until December for each of the presidents
—

IKE 66 60 -6
KENNEDY 72 78 6
NIXON 60 60 0
CARTER 69 55 -14
REAGAN 53 49 -4
BUSH 1 63 70 7
CLINTON 55 55 0
BUSH 2 59 85 26
OBAMA 68 47 -21

The above numbers are from Gallup poll data.



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Nom=de=Plume

On Dec 14, 9:17*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.



Why?

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:20:32 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
wrote:

On Dec 14, 9:17*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.



Why?

Come on, Dog, give us a break. She finally said something sensible and
you question it. Hell that's the brightest thing I've seen quoted from
her all month.
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John H

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.



Why?


Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin.

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Nom=de=Plume