question heavy boat on tires
 

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"Eddie" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and
ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat
and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands)
will
do the job.

Rob
Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie
What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725
and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846

The big problem with those jackstands is they are not stable on black
top, they must be used on cement or similar or the edges can dig in and
spill over. This is much more dangerous in the summer months. REad up
before using them for anything you are going to be under or you don't
want to fall over.


Yeah, that would suck - saved the springs and tires but the boat sank in the
parking lot!
Eddie wrote that it'll be stored on a concrete pad.
Could probably get some weight off by lowering the tongue (trailer jack),
placing concrete blocks/boards/etc just behind the rear spring hangers and
then raising the tongue.

question heavy boat on tires
 

"Eddie" wrote

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

A 5 ton jack is a small jack. I have two twelves. And many smaller ones.
We used four 100 ton for derrick leveling, all hooked together so they all
matched level.

I'd crib it with GOOD wood for stability in case of bumping or shifting, and
I'd also check the pressure weekly, and if you have variance, pull the tire
and get it fixed so it doesn't go out on you on the freeway. Truck places
usually have hardwood cribbing. Also check the bearings while you have it
up in the air. Tire covers can be made of plywood. Not snazzy, but
functional, and you can paint them, and they'll then look snazzy. Spray
paint some gang **** on there before someone else does, tho.

Steve

question heavy boat on tires
 

Get the jack stands. They aren't that expensive, and are very adjustable.

I wouldn't trust jack stands for this. Yes, they will handle the load, but
for plain stability and safety, I'd crib.

But that's just me. I've never seen jack stands under a boat at a boat
yard, but I have seen lots of cribbing.

Stev

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:49:23 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:


"Eddie" wrote

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

A 5 ton jack is a small jack. I have two twelves. And many smaller ones.
We used four 100 ton for derrick leveling, all hooked together so they all
matched level.

I'd crib it with GOOD wood for stability in case of bumping or shifting, and
I'd also check the pressure weekly, and if you have variance, pull the tire
and get it fixed so it doesn't go out on you on the freeway. Truck places
usually have hardwood cribbing. Also check the bearings while you have it
up in the air. Tire covers can be made of plywood. Not snazzy, but
functional, and you can paint them, and they'll then look snazzy. Spray
paint some gang **** on there before someone else does, tho.

Steve

LOL.

Here's just a sample of how pretty plywood can be made to look.

http://www.co.washington.or.us/sheri...s/ganggraf.jpg
--

John H

question heavy boat on tires
 

Don White wrote:

I did this for my sailboat...total 2300 lbs boat& trailer
and do it for my Princecraft/motor& trailer...maybe 800lbs
You know it's gotta be easier on the sidewalls and avoids that flat spot in
the tire thread.



What's a tire thread? I suppose *this* is one but how can it get a flat
spot, dummy?

Rob

question heavy boat on tires
 

Eddie wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, wrote:


Eddie wrote:

I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

You only have to lift one side at a time so a 2-1/2 ton jack should do
it if you are correct on the weight. There are also bottle jacks that
can lift a small house.

If you visit a boat yard you will see 4X4's and jack stands under large
boats that are not on trailers. Get whatever is best for your application.

Rob

question heavy boat on tires
 

I am Tosk wrote:
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, wrote:


Eddie wrote:

I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725 and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846

The big problem with those jackstands is they are not stable on black
top, they must be used on cement or similar or the edges can dig in and
spill over. This is much more dangerous in the summer months. REad up
before using them for anything you are going to be under or you don't
want to fall over.



A 3' X 3' piece of 3/4" CDX will help with that.

Rob

question heavy boat on tires
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:32:30 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:39 -0800,
wrote:


Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds?

I think he could go $14.00 for this one.....
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...4827_200304827

and a floor jack isn't really needed.

I actually opted for this one for my trailer and flat bed.....
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5257_200305257

You know - that's a good point. Floor jacks (I hate that term) have a
tendency to blow seals (not those kind of seals - get your heads out
of the gutter), but I have some bottle jacks that I've had for years
and other than a little hydraulic oil from time to time, they always
worked perfectly.

The only drawback to bottle jacks is that they are stationary. Floor
jacks have wheels to compensate for the movement of the load.

Rob

question heavy boat on tires
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:10:01 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:32:37 -0800,
wrote:


I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.

On my trailer boats, I've always taken the weight off the tires if
they are going to be stored for a long time - even if the boat wasn't
on the trailer.

It's pretty simple - a few floor jacks and some 4X4 lumber - just lift
the trailer enough to take the weight off the tires, place the floor
jacks and let it down. Do be sure to put some wood under the floor
jacks because if the floor is a little soft, the jacks will dig in.
The 4X4 are there for safety - place them on the corners of the
trailer so you get support in two directions in case the jacks fail
for some reason.

Having said that, you will lose air in the tires even after six months
- it's just the way it works. Not a lot though.

Not jacks - stands - FLOOR STANDS. You use the jacks to put them on
the FLOOR STANDS.

Damn. :)


Google JACK STANDS to get the best results.

Rob

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"John H" wrote


Here's just a sample of how pretty plywood can be made to look.

http://www.co.washington.or.us/sheri...s/ganggraf.jpg
--

John H

Oscar Goodman is mayor of Las Vegas. During the building of a stretch of
highway, taggers were busy every night. He suggested that if they just
broke the thumbs of one guy, it might abate.

He caught hell for that.

By the way, he was Tony "The Ant" Spilotro's lawyer.

Steve