question heavy boat on tires
 

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie

I did this for my sailboat...total 2300 lbs boat & trailer
and do it for my Princecraft/motor & trailer...maybe 800lbs
You know it's gotta be easier on the sidewalls and avoids that flat spot in
the tire thread.

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Dec 13, 8:59*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:35:51 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Scott Dickson" wrote in message
...

On Dec 12, 9:32 pm, Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie

To which "Scott Dickson" answered:

Block up the trailer frame on four corners, and oila.

Bad advice, IMO. *Possibility of bending the frame.
Block it where the axle springs meet the frame. *That's where the frame is
designed
to carry the weight to the ground.

Eisboch

You're probably one of the few that hasn't kf'd Mr. Dickson.

Good catch. Hope the OP heeds your advice.
--

John H

That all you can offer, teat-sucking Pumpkin Head?

Here's the asswipes picture (NOT for children, as it MAY give them
nightmares).

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/f...32218_8642.jpg

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Dec 13, 8:35*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Scott Dickson" wrote in message

...

On Dec 12, 9:32 pm, Eddie wrote:

I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie

To which "Scott Dickson" answered:

Block up the trailer frame on four corners, and oila.

Bad advice, IMO. *Possibility of bending the frame.
Block it where the axle springs meet the frame. *That's where the frame is
designed
to carry the weight to the ground.

Eisboch

If that frame cant be supported on four corners, the integrity of said
frame is ****.

IMO.....

question heavy boat on tires
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:39 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds?

It doesn't have to. Each wheel is supporting about 1600 lbs.


I think a bottle jack would do just fine for his application. They are
pretty cheap and they don't take up much space. You just need to make
sure the base is stable before lifting anything.

question heavy boat on tires
 

Don White wrote:
"Eddie" wrote in message
...
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie

I did this for my sailboat...total 2300 lbs boat & trailer
and do it for my Princecraft/motor & trailer...maybe 800lbs
You know it's gotta be easier on the sidewalls and avoids that flat spot in
the tire thread.


Mustn't munge up those tire threads. You'll play hell trying to put nuts
on them.

--


Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:32:30 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:39 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds?

I think he could go $14.00 for this one.....
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...4827_200304827

and a floor jack isn't really needed.

I actually opted for this one for my trailer and flat bed.....
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5257_200305257

You know - that's a good point. Floor jacks (I hate that term) have a
tendency to blow seals (not those kind of seals - get your heads out
of the gutter), but I have some bottle jacks that I've had for years
and other than a little hydraulic oil from time to time, they always
worked perfectly.

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:10:01 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:32:37 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.

On my trailer boats, I've always taken the weight off the tires if
they are going to be stored for a long time - even if the boat wasn't
on the trailer.

It's pretty simple - a few floor jacks and some 4X4 lumber - just lift
the trailer enough to take the weight off the tires, place the floor
jacks and let it down. Do be sure to put some wood under the floor
jacks because if the floor is a little soft, the jacks will dig in.
The 4X4 are there for safety - place them on the corners of the
trailer so you get support in two directions in case the jacks fail
for some reason.

Having said that, you will lose air in the tires even after six months
- it's just the way it works. Not a lot though.

Not jacks - stands - FLOOR STANDS. You use the jacks to put them on
the FLOOR STANDS.

Damn. :)

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:39 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob
Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

A regular 2 1/2 ton cheapo floor jack will have no problem lifting a
corner. You could even pick up a cheap bottle jack to lift an axle.
You just want the weight off the tires. Won't take much.
Might be cheaper to rent a jack if you have no other use for it.
You just want to lift enough to get a stand under the axle.
Better jack and put the stand at the right spot too, or you could do
damage.
If you have 4'x4's laying around, use them. Good jackstands are
better, since they have a smaller footprint and can adjust to an inch
or two instead of 4. Likely won't have to lift as high.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about the tires getting a flat spot in
that short a time. You could pick up a 12v compressor to top them off
if they start losing air. I don't like them, but they work. Slow.
20 bucks or so. Easiest path I see. Or a portable air tank you fill
up at a gas station if you can't get your car near the trailer to use
the 12v compressor.
Don't know what you mean by "so-so" tires.
To me, tires are either "good" or should be replaced.
Not the place to cut corners.

--Vic

question heavy boat on tires
 

In article m,
says...

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob
Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie
What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725 and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846

The big problem with those jackstands is they are not stable on black
top, they must be used on cement or similar or the edges can dig in and
spill over. This is much more dangerous in the summer months. REad up
before using them for anything you are going to be under or you don't
want to fall over.

question heavy boat on tires
 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:32:30 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:39 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds?

I think he could go $14.00 for this one.....
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...4827_200304827

and a floor jack isn't really needed.

I actually opted for this one for my trailer and flat bed.....
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5257_200305257

Thanks for the first one. I needed one for the camper. Didn't realize
they were that cheap. One is on the way.
--

John H