South Carolina has been getting all the attention.

So NC is doing some of their own backwards **** to make sure they're
not out of the running in the battle to be the dummest southern state.
South Carolina has a huge lead...


ASHEVILLE — North Carolina's constitution is clear: politicians who
deny the existence of God are barred from holding office.

Opponents of Cecil Bothwell are seizing on that law to argue he should
not be seated as a City Council member today, even though federal
courts have ruled religious tests for public office are unlawful under
the U.S. Constitution.

Voters elected the writer and builder to the council last month.

“I'm not saying that Cecil Bothwell is not a good man, but if he's an
atheist, he's not eligible to serve in public office, according to the
state constitution,” said H.K. Edgerton, a former Asheville NAACP
president.

Article 6, section 8 of the state constitution says: “The following
persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall
deny the being of Almighty God.”

Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

“I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,” said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: “no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.”

jps wrote:
South Carolina has been getting all the attention.

So NC is doing some of their own backwards **** to make sure they're
not out of the running in the battle to be the dummest southern state.
South Carolina has a huge lead...


ASHEVILLE ? North Carolina's constitution is clear: politicians who
deny the existence of God are barred from holding office.

Opponents of Cecil Bothwell are seizing on that law to argue he should
not be seated as a City Council member today, even though federal
courts have ruled religious tests for public office are unlawful under
the U.S. Constitution.

Voters elected the writer and builder to the council last month.

?I'm not saying that Cecil Bothwell is not a good man, but if he's an
atheist, he's not eligible to serve in public office, according to the
state constitution,? said H.K. Edgerton, a former Asheville NAACP
president.

Article 6, section 8 of the state constitution says: ?The following
persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall
deny the being of Almighty God.?

Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

?I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,? said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: ?no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.?
It's amazing how many cherry pick which Constitutional demands apply
these days.
Tje same bunch that says the Constitution trumps State law still won't
say the Second Amendment trumps local Laws.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:54:04 -0500, lil abner wrote:

jps wrote:
South Carolina has been getting all the attention.

So NC is doing some of their own backwards **** to make sure they're
not out of the running in the battle to be the dummest southern state.
South Carolina has a huge lead...


ASHEVILLE ? North Carolina's constitution is clear: politicians who
deny the existence of God are barred from holding office.

Opponents of Cecil Bothwell are seizing on that law to argue he should
not be seated as a City Council member today, even though federal
courts have ruled religious tests for public office are unlawful under
the U.S. Constitution.

Voters elected the writer and builder to the council last month.

?I'm not saying that Cecil Bothwell is not a good man, but if he's an
atheist, he's not eligible to serve in public office, according to the
state constitution,? said H.K. Edgerton, a former Asheville NAACP
president.

Article 6, section 8 of the state constitution says: ?The following
persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall
deny the being of Almighty God.?

Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

?I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,? said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: ?no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.?
It's amazing how many cherry pick which Constitutional demands apply
these days.
Tje same bunch that says the Constitution trumps State law still won't
say the Second Amendment trumps local Laws.

Like the bible, the second amendment is misinterpretted based on the
party's point of view.

On Dec 10, 7:15*pm, Gene wrote:
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:33:42 -0800, jps wrote:

South Carolina has been getting all the attention.

So NC is doing some of their own backwards **** to make sure they're
not out of the running in the battle to be the dummest southern state.
South Carolina has a huge lead...

ASHEVILLE — North Carolina's constitution is clear: politicians who
deny the existence of God are barred from holding office.

Opponents of Cecil Bothwell are seizing on that law to argue he should
not be seated as a City Council member today, even though federal
courts have ruled religious tests for public office are unlawful under
the U.S. Constitution.

Voters elected the writer and builder to the council last month.

“I'm not saying that Cecil Bothwell is not a good man, but if he's an
atheist, he's not eligible to serve in public office, according to the
state constitution,” said H.K. Edgerton, a former Asheville NAACP
president.

Article 6, section 8 of the state constitution says: “The following
persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall
deny the being of Almighty God.”

Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

“I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,” said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: “no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.”

This is the original constitution:http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/nc07.asp

It wasn't until 1861 revisions that the religious standards crap got
added... *the Southern Baptist political power being evident.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_C...n#Article_IV_-...

One nut citing a clearly infeasible provision of the constitution
means nothing.
--

Yep, and one nut repeatedly posting political garbage in this boating
NG means nothing. Just ignore him.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:15:29 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:33:42 -0800, jps wrote:


South Carolina has been getting all the attention.

So NC is doing some of their own backwards **** to make sure they're
not out of the running in the battle to be the dummest southern state.
South Carolina has a huge lead...


ASHEVILLE — North Carolina's constitution is clear: politicians who
deny the existence of God are barred from holding office.

Opponents of Cecil Bothwell are seizing on that law to argue he should
not be seated as a City Council member today, even though federal
courts have ruled religious tests for public office are unlawful under
the U.S. Constitution.

Voters elected the writer and builder to the council last month.

“I'm not saying that Cecil Bothwell is not a good man, but if he's an
atheist, he's not eligible to serve in public office, according to the
state constitution,” said H.K. Edgerton, a former Asheville NAACP
president.

Article 6, section 8 of the state constitution says: “The following
persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall
deny the being of Almighty God.”

Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

“I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,” said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: “no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.”

This is the original constitution:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/nc07.asp

It wasn't until 1861 revisions that the religious standards crap got
added... the Southern Baptist political power being evident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_C..._IV_-_Judicial

One nut citing a clearly infeasible provision of the constitution
means nothing.

I expect it's more than one nut trying to unseat the legally elected
city counsel member. Find it curious that the lead nut is a former
president of the Asheville NAACP.

My point is that buffoonery doesn't only exist in South Carolina. NC
deserves its day in the sun.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:46:01 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:06:53 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:15:29 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:33:42 -0800, jps wrote:


South Carolina has been getting all the attention.

So NC is doing some of their own backwards **** to make sure they're
not out of the running in the battle to be the dummest southern state.
South Carolina has a huge lead...


ASHEVILLE — North Carolina's constitution is clear: politicians who
deny the existence of God are barred from holding office.

Opponents of Cecil Bothwell are seizing on that law to argue he should
not be seated as a City Council member today, even though federal
courts have ruled religious tests for public office are unlawful under
the U.S. Constitution.

Voters elected the writer and builder to the council last month.

“I'm not saying that Cecil Bothwell is not a good man, but if he's an
atheist, he's not eligible to serve in public office, according to the
state constitution,” said H.K. Edgerton, a former Asheville NAACP
president.

Article 6, section 8 of the state constitution says: “The following
persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall
deny the being of Almighty God.”

Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

“I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,” said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: “no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.”

This is the original constitution:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/nc07.asp

It wasn't until 1861 revisions that the religious standards crap got
added... the Southern Baptist political power being evident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_C..._IV_-_Judicial

One nut citing a clearly infeasible provision of the constitution
means nothing.

I expect it's more than one nut trying to unseat the legally elected
city counsel member. Find it curious that the lead nut is a former
president of the Asheville NAACP.

My point is that buffoonery doesn't only exist in South Carolina. NC
deserves its day in the sun.

Wow! I guess that begs the question.... what populated geographical
location can I move to that is devoid of "buffoonery."

Buffoonery seems to exist everywhere humans habitate but the south has
a special brand with a slow cooked, deep smokey flavor of intolerance.

Nothing against your choice of location. I'm sure it has many
benefits and attractions.

And as you might guess, this is a Conservative Christian thing against
a Heathen Liberal thing..... (probably more Conservative against
Liberal than anything else).
http://www,google.com/hostednews/ap/...v67hgD9CHANQO1

What a surprise. I was stunned when traveling through South Carolina
at the number of churches. Seemed like there was one every 150 yards.

Good organizations for seeding bad ideas.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:54:04 -0500, lil abner wrote:

jps wrote:


Rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution trump the restriction in the
state constitution, said Bob Orr, executive director of the N.C.
Institute for Constitutional Law.

?I think there's any number of federal cases that would view this as
an imposition of a religious qualification and violate separation of
church and state,? said Orr, a former state Supreme Court justice.

In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Maryland's requirement for
officials to declare belief in God violated the freedom of religion
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Additionally, Article VI of the U.S. Constitution says: ?no religious
Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.?
It's amazing how many cherry pick which Constitutional demands apply
these days.
Tje same bunch that says the Constitution trumps State law still won't
say the Second Amendment trumps local Laws.

it doesn't. and there's a very good reason for that. it's called 'the
law'.

it deals with an issue called 'incorporation'...that is, which laws do
and don't apply to states and the federal govt. the legal basis is the
14th amendment to the constitution.