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Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a
glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. |
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Jack wrote:
Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. Anything that causes you grief is...worth it. |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. If you listened to any of the C-span Senate debate today, you'll hear about the cuts being planned for home and hospice health care. -- John H |
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On Dec 5, 3:40*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? *Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. *Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. *Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. *Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. *They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". *Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! *This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? *Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. *We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. *Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." *Uh-huh. If you listened to any of the C-span Senate debate today, you'll hear about the cuts being planned for home and hospice health care. -- John H The really unbelievable thing is that hospice care is the best possible alternative... it allows patients to remain in their homes instead of hospitals. That allows them a better standard of life in their last days, while reducing the cost of care as compared to them being in a hospital or other managed care facility, which is their only other option... other than dying in pain, and alone, or sitting in a hospital at 4 times the cost. Cutting funding of this program, as this administration is doing, is myopic and shortsighted at best. Why reduce funding to the biggest bang for your buck program there is? While there is the Medicare monster sitting there in the middle, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. We need thinking people in DC, instead of the pie-in-the-sky idiots that are there. |
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On Dec 5, 12:52*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? *Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. *Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. *Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. *Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. *They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". *Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! *This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? *Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. *We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. *Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." *Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:18:39 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote: We need thinking people in DC, instead of the pie-in-the-sky idiots that are there. Nothing happens in Washington unless there are well organized groups lobbying for it. Very few, if any, decisions are made as a result of thinking about what makes the most sense. |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. So, basically, you don't get it, but feel free to tell us you do. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... On Dec 5, 3:40 pm, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. If you listened to any of the C-span Senate debate today, you'll hear about the cuts being planned for home and hospice health care. -- John H The really unbelievable thing is that hospice care is the best possible alternative... it allows patients to remain in their homes instead of hospitals. That allows them a better standard of life in their last days, while reducing the cost of care as compared to them being in a hospital or other managed care facility, which is their only other option... other than dying in pain, and alone, or sitting in a hospital at 4 times the cost. Cutting funding of this program, as this administration is doing, is myopic and shortsighted at best. Why reduce funding to the biggest bang for your buck program there is? While there is the Medicare monster sitting there in the middle, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. We need thinking people in DC, instead of the pie-in-the-sky idiots that are there. Reply: More fear-bases bs from the right, most likely. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Dec 5, 8:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. *We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. *Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for *the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? *And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? *The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. *In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. |
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Jack wrote:
Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob |
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Jack wrote:
On Dec 5, 3:40 pm, John wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. If you listened to any of the C-span Senate debate today, you'll hear about the cuts being planned for home and hospice health care. -- John H The really unbelievable thing is that hospice care is the best possible alternative... it allows patients to remain in their homes instead of hospitals. That allows them a better standard of life in their last days, while reducing the cost of care as compared to them being in a hospital or other managed care facility, which is their only other option... other than dying in pain, and alone, or sitting in a hospital at 4 times the cost. Cutting funding of this program, as this administration is doing, is myopic and shortsighted at best. Why reduce funding to the biggest bang for your buck program there is? While there is the Medicare monster sitting there in the middle, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. We need thinking people in DC, instead of the pie-in-the-sky idiots that are there. I agree with this post. Rob |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. They are doing poorly right now with all the ins. company bs. If there's a public option, the ins. companies will have to compete. They can do that by reducing overhead or adding value. Read and learn. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. Reality includes facts. I'm sorry if you're not. FYI, it's Olbermann. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Rob" wrote in message
... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=112818960 "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Dec 5, 10:57*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message .... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message .... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. *They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. They are doing poorly right now with all the ins. company bs. If there's a public option, the ins. companies will have to compete. They can do that by reducing overhead or adding value. Read and learn. You see, I'm talking about reality. *You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. Reality includes facts. I'm sorry if you're not. FYI, it's Olbermann. -- Nom=de=Plume "Your just a bs'r typocop" |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:18:39 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote: On Dec 5, 3:40*pm, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? *Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. *Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. *Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. *Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. *They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". *Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! *This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? *Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. *We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. *Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." *Uh-huh. If you listened to any of the C-span Senate debate today, you'll hear about the cuts being planned for home and hospice health care. -- John H The really unbelievable thing is that hospice care is the best possible alternative... it allows patients to remain in their homes instead of hospitals. That allows them a better standard of life in their last days, while reducing the cost of care as compared to them being in a hospital or other managed care facility, which is their only other option... other than dying in pain, and alone, or sitting in a hospital at 4 times the cost. Cutting funding of this program, as this administration is doing, is myopic and shortsighted at best. Why reduce funding to the biggest bang for your buck program there is? While there is the Medicare monster sitting there in the middle, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. We need thinking people in DC, instead of the pie-in-the-sky idiots that are there. When Baucus got up to explain the cuts for home and hospice care, he blamed them on fraud and inefficiencies. The cuts were made because the bill would 'reduce' them, therefore enabling more care with less money. Pure horse****, in other words. -- John H |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. *We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. *Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for *the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? *And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? *The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. *In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H |
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On Dec 6, 8:12*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message .... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message .... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business.. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. *They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. *You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H It's fun to chase the kids around the yard occasionally. |
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Jack wrote:
On Dec 6, 8:12 am, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H It's fun to chase the kids around the yard occasionally. Your moronic kids...or herring's? |
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:06:23 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
wrote: On Dec 5, 10:57*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. *They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. They are doing poorly right now with all the ins. company bs. If there's a public option, the ins. companies will have to compete. They can do that by reducing overhead or adding value. Read and learn. You see, I'm talking about reality. *You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. Reality includes facts. I'm sorry if you're not. FYI, it's Olbermann. -- Nom=de=Plume "Your just a bs'r typocop" LOL!!! -- John H |
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:03:50 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote: On Dec 6, 8:12*am, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. *They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. *You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H It's fun to chase the kids around the yard occasionally. Yeahbut, picking a blind-folded kid ain't fair. -- John H |
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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Dec 5, 10:57 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. They are doing poorly right now with all the ins. company bs. If there's a public option, the ins. companies will have to compete. They can do that by reducing overhead or adding value. Read and learn. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. Reality includes facts. I'm sorry if you're not. FYI, it's Olbermann. -- Nom=de=Plume "Your just a bs'r typocop" Really, I don't think I've made continual typo corrections, unlike some people.... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H John's dealing with someone whom he considers a threat, intellectually that is. I'm sure he's stupendously strong physically in comparison. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... On Dec 6, 8:12 am, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H It's fun to chase the kids around the yard occasionally. Don't hurt yourself in the process! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H John's dealing with someone whom he considers a threat, intellectually that is. I'm sure he's stupendously strong physically in comparison. -- Nom=de=Plume Oh boy! Don't make Scott show that picture of JohnnyH again...please. |
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Don White wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H John's dealing with someone whom he considers a threat, intellectually that is. I'm sure he's stupendously strong physically in comparison. -- Nom=de=Plume Oh boy! Don't make Scott show that picture of JohnnyH again...please. In person, herring looks like someone in the throes of AIDS...very thin, very fragile. |
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Jack wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. She never gets it unless Old Harry gives it to her. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 3:40 pm, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. If you listened to any of the C-span Senate debate today, you'll hear about the cuts being planned for home and hospice health care. -- John H The really unbelievable thing is that hospice care is the best possible alternative... it allows patients to remain in their homes instead of hospitals. That allows them a better standard of life in their last days, while reducing the cost of care as compared to them being in a hospital or other managed care facility, which is their only other option... other than dying in pain, and alone, or sitting in a hospital at 4 times the cost. Cutting funding of this program, as this administration is doing, is myopic and shortsighted at best. Why reduce funding to the biggest bang for your buck program there is? While there is the Medicare monster sitting there in the middle, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. We need thinking people in DC, instead of the pie-in-the-sky idiots that are there. Reply: More fear-bases bs from the right, most likely. What kind of weird news reader are you using. "reply" What is that all about. Get a Mac. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
Here's a nice link for you... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=112818960 "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. Plume. You are an idiot. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. For once, I agree with you. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote:
Jack wrote: On Dec 6, 8:12 am, John H wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H It's fun to chase the kids around the yard occasionally. Your moronic kids...or herring's? More like you and plume. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob |
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"Rob" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob Too bad you can feel good about attempting to put others down because of their looks. I guess you're below average in that respect. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob Too bad you can feel good about attempting to put others down because of their looks. I guess you're below average in that respect. -- Nom=de=Plume You're too kind. Sub-human would be a better description for Ditzy Dan. |
Here's your gov run health care...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob Too bad you can feel good about attempting to put others down because of their looks. I guess you're below average in that respect. I'd describe "Rob" as exceptional, rather than above-average. |
Here's your gov run health care...
On Dec 6, 9:08*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: *wrote in message om... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? *Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. *Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. *Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. *Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. *They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". *Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! *This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? *Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. *We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. *Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." *Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob Too bad you can feel good about attempting to put others down because of their looks. I guess you're below average in that respect. -- Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you mean like Harry? Do you know that he equates someone's height with manhood? |
Here's your gov run health care...
On Dec 6, 2:47*pm, "H the K (I post with a Mac)"
wrote: Don White wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:29:14 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote: On Dec 5, 8:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. So, because of a couple of bad situations, the rest of the people shouldn't get healthcare that's good and affordable.. I get it. -- Nom=de=Plume "thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government." That's what you call "a couple of bad situations"? And the supposed payoff is healthcare "that's good and affordable"? The terms "good and affordable" are not in evidence at this point... not proven. In fact, all evidence points otherwise. I get it... you *don't* get it. "Health care provders" If you're talking about doctors, etc., they'll do just fine. If you're talking about insurance companies, they either can compete or go under. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about an insurance company, but real life doctors, nurses, and an organization that provide health care to real people. *They are not now doing "just fine", and will not when saddled with a proposed 5 billion dollar cut and government red-tape.. You will lose. You see, I'm talking about reality. *You're spouting what Olberman told you to think. You're dealing with a vacuous-minded space cadet. You can have her. -- John H John's dealing with someone whom he considers a threat, intellectually that is. I'm sure he's stupendously strong physically in comparison. -- Nom=de=Plume Oh boy! *Don't make Scott show that picture of JohnnyH again...please.. In person, herring looks like someone in the throes of AIDS...very thin, very fragile.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, just because you're an obese piece of ****, you have to knock those who are at a healthy weight? |
Here's your gov run health care...
"Loogypicker" wrote in message
... On Dec 6, 9:08 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message om... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob Too bad you can feel good about attempting to put others down because of their looks. I guess you're below average in that respect. -- Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you mean like Harry? Do you know that he equates someone's height with manhood? I try not to be mean to Harry. Also, I don't want my height associated with "manhood." -- Nom=de=Plume |
Here's your gov run health care...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 9:08 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message om... Jack wrote: Want to see what gov run health care would look like? Here's a glimpse: My wife is the CFO of a small to medium sized health care business. One of the things they are involved with is hospice care, which in part gets billed to Medicare. Right now, Medicare owes them nearly a million dollars, and they won't pay. Why, you ask? Well, you might think that the company was under scrutiny, or has filed improperly. Not the case... the snafu is solely on Medicare's side, and they admit it. They say they have a glitch in their system, telling them to hold on while they try to "work it out". Meanwhile, Medicare (the federal government, on Obama's watch) is hurting this private business, forcing them to carry the government of the US because of Medicare's clerical error!! This has been going on for several weeks, and has risen to the level of letters and calls to federal legislators for help, with no end in site. So now you want to turn our health care over to this same bureaucracy? Do that and watch as thousands of private health care providers go bankrupt or simply shut down and walk away, unable to continue to stay in business. We'll have a system where only the rich and powerful (like the congress and senate) have decent and timely health care because they don't have to rely *solely* on the public option. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be fighting, and waiting, for the scraps doled out by the government. "We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Uh-huh. I agree with this post. Rob Wow... such an inciteful follow up post Rob... one of many that are the same. You must be above average. In many ways, yes, I am. Rob Too bad you can feel good about attempting to put others down because of their looks. I guess you're below average in that respect. -- Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you mean like Harry? Do you know that he equates someone's height with manhood? I try not to be mean to Harry. Also, I don't want my height associated with "manhood." -- Nom=de=Plume Yeah..you'd probably put a few of the Dopers to shame. |
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