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jps December 5th 09 05:27 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

nom=de=plume December 5th 09 06:32 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
"jps" wrote in message
...

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.



Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps December 5th 09 08:27 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
.. .

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.



Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)


Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

H the K (I post with a Mac) December 5th 09 01:06 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
jps wrote:
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.



Love it. Franken continues to delight.

Bill McKee December 5th 09 11:27 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
. ..

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.



Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)


Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.


Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The
Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.



H the K (I post with a Mac) December 5th 09 11:35 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
Bill McKee wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.


Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The
Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.



Wow...best "whoooooooooooooooosh" of the week, by far.

So, Bill...

Oh, nevermind, you wouldn't "get" it.

nom=de=plume December 6th 09 01:36 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)


Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.


Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.


So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume



CalifBill December 6th 09 01:50 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

"H the K (I post with a Mac)" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.


Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.


Wow...best "whoooooooooooooooosh" of the week, by far.

So, Bill...

Oh, nevermind, you wouldn't "get" it.


Nope, you do not get it.



CalifBill December 6th 09 01:51 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
m...

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.


Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.


So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.



jps December 6th 09 03:03 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:27:55 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)


Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.


Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The
Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.


You live a rich fantasy life. Your assumptions are poorly founded.
The Dems just wanted to call the Republicans on their bluff. Guess
what, the Republicans did it thinking the Dems would shoot it down.

Their attempted political dupe turns out to be the best idea they've
come up with all year.

jps December 6th 09 03:07 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:51:02 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
om...

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem
majority goes along with the theft of credit.


So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.


That's not true, co-sponsors can sign on at any time.

The Republicans didn't want it to happen. They were bluffing.

You really need to have a talk with yourself about reality. Your
positioning rivals Dana Perino's.

nom=de=plume December 6th 09 04:54 AM

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om...

This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going
on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the
Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.


So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.


Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the
Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill
immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final
passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the
Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is
being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Bill McKee December 6th 09 06:57 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled
in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress
to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going
on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion
to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the
Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.

So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.


Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill
immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final
passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the
Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is
being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume


At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill. Seems as if that rule is
no more.



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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"jps" wrote in message
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled
in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in
the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor
of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor
to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress
to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at
all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to
pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going
on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now,
I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion
to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea.
The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the
Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.

So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.


Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House
bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on
final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the
Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who
is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume


At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill. Seems as if that rule
is no more.



I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you
should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Bill McKee December 6th 09 09:41 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"jps" wrote in message
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled
in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in
the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor
of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor
to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress
to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at
all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to
pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now,
I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes
we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion
to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea.
And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.

So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.

Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House
bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on
final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the
Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who
is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume


c. Seems as if that rule is no more.



I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you
should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



H the K (I post with a Mac) December 6th 09 09:42 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote:
jps wrote:
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.
Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on
the public option as I am.

Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.
From Julie Gulden on Kos.



Love it. Franken continues to delight.


OOOps I shouldn't have said that. People will think I'm gay.

--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting
your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because,
well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.

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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in
the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled
in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor
of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor
to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at
all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to
pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes
we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea.
And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.

So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.

Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House
bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on
final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the
Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who
is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume


c. Seems as if that rule is no more.



I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"


No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the
Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a
Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume



Bill McKee December 7th 09 06:30 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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"jps" wrote in message
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in
the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled
in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at
all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to
pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes
we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea.
And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.

So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.

Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading
or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume


c. Seems as if that rule is no more.



I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"


No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a
Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled
in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to
pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.


Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)

Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.

Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea.
And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.

So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.

Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume


c. Seems as if that rule is no more.



I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"


No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



As I said, there are other ways to add co-sponsorship, such as by unanimous
consent. If you're ignorant of the procedure, read on....

A Senator may introduce a bill or resolution for himself and as many other
Senators as may see fit to join him; in one case all 96 Senators joined each
other on the same bill. Unanimous consent is required for any Senator to add
his name to a bill or resolution which has been introduced or submitted or
to add the names of additional Senators as co-sponsors of a bill when the
bill is next printed or reported.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/04/...r-public-plan/

--
Nom=de=Plume



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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in
the
bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled
in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at
all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to
pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes
we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea.
And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading
or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"

No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a
Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to "attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate, introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words,
their little idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his boys
at the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Bill McKee December 7th 09 07:10 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to "attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end, but
say we were those for it. Pigs.



jps December 8th 09 05:58 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:10:18 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to "attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end, but
say we were those for it. Pigs.


Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

Bill McKee December 9th 09 04:23 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option
is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or
a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval
of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not expect
was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his boys
at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.


They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!


I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They probably
thought they could make some political points, and then it backfired. If
they want their party to survive, they need to stop thinking just about
themselves and start thinking smart politics, which means inclusion not
exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best for
the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and also
pay the bills.



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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not expect
was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!


I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They probably
thought they could make some political points, and then it backfired. If
they want their party to survive, they need to stop thinking just about
themselves and start thinking smart politics, which means inclusion not
exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and
also pay the bills.


I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to healthcare
reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to do) what the
people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Bill McKee December 9th 09 06:21 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics, which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and
also pay the bills.


I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.



jps December 9th 09 07:09 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics, which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and
also pay the bills.


I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.



Bill can't be wrong, it must be you. You're better off letting him
think he won and move on.

John H[_11_] December 9th 09 03:00 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics, which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and
also pay the bills.


I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.

Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--

John H

Don White December 9th 09 05:36 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.

Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--

John H



You sayin' Bill's usually a dim bulb?



Loogypicker[_2_] December 9th 09 05:40 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
On Dec 9, 12:36*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.


Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--


John H


You sayin' Bill's usually a dim bulb?


Can you even READ you idiot?

H the K (I post with a Mac) December 9th 09 05:49 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
In article 222d9e17-caaf-4f80-9217-32714a2c51e1
@g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 9, 12:36*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.


Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--


John H


You sayin' Bill's usually a dim bulb?


Can you even READ you idiot?


That's about enough of you picking on my Donny, you Schitt. For one, I'm
taller than you, that makes me a manly sort. And I have guns. So you
better leave Donny alone or I'll have my closed circuit surveillance
system identify you, got it SFB?

--
Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

Don White December 9th 09 06:10 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
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You sayin' Bill's usually a dim bulb?


Can you even READ you idiot?


That's about enough of you picking on my Donny, you Schitt. For one, I'm
taller than you, that makes me a manly sort. And I have guns. So you
better leave Donny alone or I'll have my closed circuit surveillance
system identify you, got it SFB?

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Bill McKee December 9th 09 06:18 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
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--

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You sayin' Bill's usually a dim bulb?


Nope, he is saying Donnie is a drunken, burned out bulb.



nom=de=plume December 9th 09 07:18 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics, which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and
also pay the bills.


I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.


Wow... you're so articulate!

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume December 9th 09 07:19 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care
amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.),
Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but
they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as
serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married
34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother
to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with
a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on
your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate
bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the
end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics,
which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them
and
also pay the bills.

I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.



Bill can't be wrong, it must be you. You're better off letting him
think he won and move on.



I guess saying "I disagree" and stating why must mean I think for myself,
which must be threatening to him.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume December 9th 09 07:19 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care
amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.),
Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but
they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as
serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married
34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother
to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with
a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on
your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate
bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the
end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics,
which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them
and
also pay the bills.

I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.

Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--

John H



We're all hoping that happens for you, whereever you're located!

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume December 9th 09 07:20 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:38 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.

Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--

John H



You sayin' Bill's usually a dim bulb?



I think he's saying he's been staring into a bulb for too long. The sad part
is the bulb burned out long ago.

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps December 9th 09 07:21 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics, which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them and
also pay the bills.

I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.


Wow... you're so articulate!


Bill just had a new crop of Blue Lightening Bud come in from Santa
Rosa. Based on his posts of the last several weeks, his bong must be
going 24/7.

jps December 9th 09 07:53 PM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care
amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.),
Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor
this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but
they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as
serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married
34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother
to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with
a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on
your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate
bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that
two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the
end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics,
which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them
and
also pay the bills.

I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.

Congratulations! The 'a-ha' light came on bright enough to see on the
east coast.
--

John H



We're all hoping that happens for you, whereever you're located!



Herring's orbit takes him past many twinkly lights. His own twinkly
light turns on and off with no regard to time, mirroring the
randomness of the universe and life itself. And like life, Herring
remains a mystery -- apart from the fact that he's a horse's ass.

Bill McKee December 10th 09 02:23 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 

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This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives
to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to
rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.)
and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care
amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should
be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities,
no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become
a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.),
Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way
onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be
a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all
members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have
no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but
they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as
serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married
34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said
absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother
to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with
a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on
your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate
bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of
any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to
understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to
be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the
end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics,
which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is
best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them
and
also pay the bills.

I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.


Wow... you're so articulate!


Bill just had a new crop of Blue Lightening Bud come in from Santa
Rosa. Based on his posts of the last several weeks, his bong must be
going 24/7.


Is that your excuse?



jps December 10th 09 03:10 AM

Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
 
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...
This politics stuff is getting kind of fun.

When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health
care
amendment
that would require all senators and representatives
to
be
enrolled in
the public option, they expected the Democrats to
rise
in
opposition.

What happened next is just RICH.

Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking
Democratic
senators
would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.)
and
Tom
Coburn
(R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care
amendment.

"The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government
option is
in the
bill, every senator and every representative should
be
enrolled in
it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities,
no
other
choices."

"It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good
enough
for
everybody else, we ought to be leading by example."

But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans
wouldn't
allow
it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become
a
co-sponsor of
the amendment, he got the cold shoulder.

So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.),
Barbara
A.
Mikulski
(D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way
onto
the
amendment
with a unanimous consent vote.

Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be
a
co-sponsor to
Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all
members
of
congress to
enroll in the public option. I am pleased to
co-sponsor this
because
I strongly support the public option and would have
no
qualms
at all
about enrolling in this plan.

Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these,
these
two
sponsors are so much against the public option but
they
want
to pass
this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as
serious
about
going on
the public option as I am.

Franken:
Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married
34
years
now, I
talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this
thing
passes we
should go on the public option. She said
absolutely.

Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator
Franken's
motion to
be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved.

From Julie Gulden on Kos.

Franken must have been born in Kenya. :)
Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother
to
look
one
move further on the board before they moved their man.

Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown.
Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with
a
great
idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for
this
idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of
credit.
So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on
your
planet?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time.
Nope....

Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the bill
in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate
bill
or a
House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on
third
reading or on final passage.

The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the
approval of
the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of
any
co-sponsor who is being added.

--
Nom=de=Plume

c. Seems as if that rule is no more.


I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to
understand.
Perhaps
you should look it up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I understand you have reading comprehension problems.
Let me repeat:
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"
No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway:

"Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of
the
bill in
the Senate."

There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's
what
happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why
wouldn't
a Senator want a co-sponsor?

I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to
be
denying
reality.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Mental problems? That seems to be you.


As I reported the rules.
"At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill"



Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to
"attach"
themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same.

What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is
that two
of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the
Senate,
introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off
health
care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not
expect was
that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their
little
idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn.

Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his
boys at
the "C Street House" of ill repute.



Nope, is a case of well we will steal the glory. Kill it in the
end,
but
say we were those for it. Pigs.

Your brain is a very capable organ. It seems even to be
manufacturing
serious hallucinations in this case.

It was a bluff by Republicans, the Dems called 'em on it. The only
glory stealing that exists is in your head.

They actually did steal the glory. Good politicking!

I agree, but it was pretty much the Republican's own doing. They
probably thought they could make some political points, and then it
backfired. If they want their party to survive, they need to stop
thinking just about themselves and start thinking smart politics,
which
means inclusion not exclusion.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Both the ****ing parties need to think of the people, not what is
best
for the party. Neither is including the people who voted for them
and
also pay the bills.

I disagree. It's pretty clear that the Democrats, at least wrt to
healthcare reform are doing (or at least most of them are attempting to
do) what the people want.

--
Nom=de=Plume


You must be a lot more stupid than I figured you were.

Wow... you're so articulate!


Bill just had a new crop of Blue Lightening Bud come in from Santa
Rosa. Based on his posts of the last several weeks, his bong must be
going 24/7.


Is that your excuse?


I don't use excuses. I'm trying to understand how your brain, which
appears to intermittently function, can come to the simple-minded
conclusions that show up in your posts.

I've concluded you must be a pothead.


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