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Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. |
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jps wrote:
Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. Four cops "working on their computers" in a coffee shop? If only the Dynamic Quartet of flajim, loogy, snotty scotty and Rob the Krueger was around to help out the cops or pee down their pants legs, whichever came first. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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jps wrote:
Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. I am tired of you and your anti-gun ****. STFU before I put a cap in your head. If it wasn't for handguns, I would have been dead years ago. Handguns are good for my health. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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How sad for you, spoofer...you write like a combo of loogy, flajim, and
snotty scotty, at the fourth grade level, maybe. H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote: jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. I am tired of you and your anti-gun ****. STFU before I put a cap in your head. If it wasn't for handguns, I would have been dead years ago. Handguns are good for my health. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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jps wrote:
Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. I would head for the nearest gun emporium and pick up one or three, If I was you. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On Nov 29, 12:53*pm, jps wrote:
Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. |
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If you "was" me, you'd know which form of the verb to use, eh?
Moron. H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote: jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... I would head for the nearest gun emporium and pick up one or three, If I was you. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote:
If you "was" me, you'd know which form of the verb to use, eh? Moron. H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote: jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... I would head for the nearest gun emporium and pick up one or three, If I was you. Spoofing Asshole -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:53:30 -0800, jps wrote:
TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Since when is a direct frontal assault an ambush. Nothing there about the scum lying in wait for the targets to arrive. Casady |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:57:07 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That don't make so much sense when the outlaws were able to get the jump on 4 guys with guns and a bunch of training. How many of these guys do you suppose came out of the military? |
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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Nov 29, 12:53 pm, jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Gov't control??? Say it ain't so... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Nov 29, 6:01*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume Pffftttt, talk about naive |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. |
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I am Tosk wrote:
In article 115977bb-2916-467b-91e7- , says... On Nov 29, 12:53 pm, jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Wonder what these cops (or one of them) were into that got somebody that ****ed off? Folks don't take chances of a guaranteed 'lectric chair (or LWP) for nothing. Either way, just for the record, I believe that should be the punishment for anybody who kills a cop, firefighter or EMS while they are on duty.. Especially if they are in uniform. Not that what you believe matters to anyone, but why do you think the uniform is the *significant* factor in these murders, eh? -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:20:29 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. Space cadets see things through their own baby-blue glasses you know. http://tinyurl.com/y8enhm7 -- John H |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:00:00 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 12:53 pm, jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Gov't control??? Say it ain't so... Conservatives want to control your womb but leave guns unrestricted. For war and the death penalty. Pro life? Dang right! |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:00:49 -0500, "H the K (I post with a Mac)"
wrote: jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. Four cops "working on their computers" in a coffee shop? If only the Dynamic Quartet of flajim, loogy, snotty scotty and Rob the Krueger was around to help out the cops or pee down their pants legs, whichever came first. If the guy is a Muslim, he should be labeled a terrorist. |
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"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message
... On Nov 29, 6:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume Pffftttt, talk about naive Is that the sound you make when you bend over? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 6:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume Pffftttt, talk about naive Is that the sound you make when you bend over? That's the sound that comes out of both of his "ends." -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. Sure is easy for you to cite a statistic without any correlation to regulation. Sure wish we had such a serious problem as the UK, with a whopping 236 shootings. I think you'll find the number is a bit higher here in the US. The final, laughable "fact" is that you're claiming that criminals are going to be mass producing home-made guns. We might run out of sporks! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:20:29 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. Space cadets see things through their own baby-blue glasses you know. http://tinyurl.com/y8enhm7 -- John H The jerko is fixated with me. Sounds tragic, since he'll never be able to consumate his desires. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... In article 115977bb-2916-467b-91e7- , says... On Nov 29, 12:53 pm, jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Wonder what these cops (or one of them) were into that got somebody that ****ed off? Folks don't take chances of a guaranteed 'lectric chair (or LWP) for nothing. Either way, just for the record, I believe that should be the punishment for anybody who kills a cop, firefighter or EMS while they are on duty.. Especially if they are in uniform. What about when they're not on duty? Then it's ok? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. Sure is easy for you to cite a statistic without any correlation to regulation. Sure wish we had such a serious problem as the UK, with a whopping 236 shootings. I think you'll find the number is a bit higher here in the US. The final, laughable "fact" is that you're claiming that criminals are going to be mass producing home-made guns. We might run out of sporks! SW Tom has been going nuts politically ever since his gal, Sarah Palin, lost last fall. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:20:29 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. Space cadets see things through their own baby-blue glasses you know. http://tinyurl.com/y8enhm7 -- John H The jerko is fixated with me. Sounds tragic, since he'll never be able to consumate his desires. The exact words mrs. herring said about him when I met her.... :) -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article 115977bb-2916-467b-91e7- , says... On Nov 29, 12:53 pm, jps wrote: Gosh, if only they had guns to defend themselves and the training to use them... TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff's official said. Officials at the scene told The News Tribune in Tacoma two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene. Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery. Troyer tells the newspaper ''it was just a flat out ambush.'' He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from. Police were searching for two suspect and interviewing witnesses. The coffee shop is near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. ''We hopefully will have answers, but there is nothing more we can tell you,'' Troyer told KING-TV. ''That's as cold-hearted as it is.'' Roads were blocked around the attack. A witness driving past told the newspaper he saw an officer on the ground just after the shootings. What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Wonder what these cops (or one of them) were into that got somebody that ****ed off? Folks don't take chances of a guaranteed 'lectric chair (or LWP) for nothing. Either way, just for the record, I believe that should be the punishment for anybody who kills a cop, firefighter or EMS while they are on duty.. Especially if they are in uniform. What about when they're not on duty? Then it's ok? -- Nom=de=Plume Wonder what The Freak thinks should happen to cops who shove long-haired freaky people down stairs. |
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On Nov 29, 3:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. Right you are, Wayne. My statement was to bolster the thought that the deviate criminal cares not for gun laws . |
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On Nov 29, 4:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:57:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That don't make so much sense when the outlaws were able to get the jump on 4 guys with guns and a bunch of training. How many of these guys do you suppose came out of the military? JPS, your statement *Don't make so much sense." But it matches your mode of reasoning. |
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On Nov 29, 5:01*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume W-O-O-O-O-SH! |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. Liberal bull****. That's right - bull****. "Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1968, 1988, 1994 and 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts leading to the current outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals. Each firearm owned must be registered on a Firearms Certificate (FAC) or shotgun certificate which is issued by the local police authority who will require the prospective owner to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm held (e.g. pest control or target shooting) and may place restrictions on the FAC relating to the type and amount of ammunition that is held and the places and the uses the firearms are put to. Historically, most certificates approved for handguns listed "self defence" as a reason. Since 1968 in mainland Britain, self-defense alone is not considered an acceptable "good reason" for firearm ownership. Only in Northern Ireland is self-defence still accepted as a reason. The police should not amend, revoke (even partially) or refuse an FAC without stating a valid reason. (Section 29(1) of the 1968 Act gives the chief officer power to vary, by a notice in writing, any such condition not prescribed by the rules made by the Secretary of State. The notice may require the holder to deliver the certificate to the chief officer within twenty one days for the purpose of amending the conditions. The certificate may be revoked if the holder fails to comply with such a requirement.) Compare and contrast. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise "They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital." That's a country with one of the strictest gun control legislation in the world. Criminals will still get guns - or even make them. Violence will always happen. Go to your local max security prison sometime and ask for a tour of their weapons museum - you'd be amazed at how easy it is to make a .22 single shot hand gun from some simple materials - never mind shanks, shivs, gasoline/butane in light bulbs - you name it, anything can be weaponized. Don't have a bullet to use? Rubber bands or shaved plastic handles from toothbrushes - a spring is just as good at throwing a projectile as gunpowder. Then again, I suppose it's prettier on your side of the divide what with all the rainbows, unicorns and pretty elysian fields. Sure is easy for you to cite a statistic without any correlation to regulation. Sure wish we had such a serious problem as the UK, with a whopping 236 shootings. I think you'll find the number is a bit higher here in the US. The final, laughable "fact" is that you're claiming that criminals are going to be mass producing home-made guns. We might run out of sporks! I completely agree with your concept of making guns illegal, but some of us should be allowed to carry them. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. Outlaws and me. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Nov 29, 5:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume W-O-O-O-O-SH! Sound of your brain getting flushed? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:42:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 6:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume Pffftttt, talk about naive Is that the sound you make when you bend over? It's the sound me makes when he's at his most intelligent. |
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jps wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:42:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 6:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume Pffftttt, talk about naive Is that the sound you make when you bend over? It's the sound me makes when he's at his most intelligent. Spoken like a true left coast idjut. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On Nov 29, 9:06*pm, jps wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:42:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 6:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:54:08 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminals will not be able to repeat this crime again. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a canard. When guns are regulated, fewer outlaws have guns. -- Nom=de=Plume Pffftttt, talk about naive Is that the sound you make when you bend over? It's the sound me makes when he's at his most intelligent. The sound "YOU" makes? |
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What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Yeah. More laws. That ought to do it. It certainly has worked so far, hasn't it? Steve |
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On Nov 29, 9:46*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
What Washington state needs in much stiffer gun laws, to ensure these murderous criminials will not be able to repeat this crime again. Yeah. *More laws. *That ought to do it. *It certainly has worked so far, hasn't it? Steve Entirely. Your government should at least double its current rate of gun laws, therefore reducing gun crime in half. |
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