On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:55:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
m...

If they file Chapter 7, the boats in the yard can be quickly returned to
the owners. If they are torn apart, in the middle of a service, you are
out of luck and will have to pay someone else to finish the job. If they
have an account started with you, with a balance, the bankruptcy court can
attempt to make you pay for the benefit of the trust.

Rob - Been there, different circumstances.


It depends on what you consider to be "quickly". In many cases a
Chapter 7 filing ... voluntary or involuntary ... results in all the assets
and property (owned by the business or not) being held until the bankruptcy
court
plows through all the records. It can take months.

I had a similar experience to John's a few years back in Florida.
I had a Scout stored at a boat yard storage and repair place.
The bank called a note on them and they were forced into
Chapter 7. There was no direct notice to those of us with boats at
the yard.

Similar to John, I became suspicious when I could no longer contact
them. I took a ride to the yard only to find it locked up with a steel gate
that was padlocked. I sat there for a while in my truck and noticed a van
pull up, unlock the gate and pulled into the yard. I quickly pulled up
behind him and entered as well.

The guy in the van got out and started yelling at me that they were
"closed".
By this time the situation was clear in my mind, so I pulled my truck around
him and backed it up to my boat and trailer. Told him I was taking my
boat.
He said I couldn't .. they were "bankrupt" and everything in the yard had
been
frozen by the court.

He ran into the building to call somebody.

Meanwhile, I noticed that the trailer had a flat tire. Another guy came
out
and helped me put a little air in the tire and he then got the keys to the
van
and moved it. Apparently he didn't realize what was going on.

I dragged the boat/trailer out of the yard to the nearest gas station to
fill up the
tire and then headed home. Checked the local "legal notices" for the town
and discovered they were in bankruptcy. Never heard from them again.

Eisboch



Good move. I think there's something to that 'possession is
nine-tenths' bit.

Anyway, I feel much better having the boat back under my control.

And, glad to see you're still alive and kicking. How's the shop? From
your web site it appears to be doing well. I know nothing of guitars,
so don't stick my head in your door.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving and that all are well.
--

John H

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om says...

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:55:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
m...

If they file Chapter 7, the boats in the yard can be quickly returned to
the owners. If they are torn apart, in the middle of a service, you are
out of luck and will have to pay someone else to finish the job. If they
have an account started with you, with a balance, the bankruptcy court can
attempt to make you pay for the benefit of the trust.

Rob - Been there, different circumstances.


It depends on what you consider to be "quickly". In many cases a
Chapter 7 filing ... voluntary or involuntary ... results in all the assets
and property (owned by the business or not) being held until the bankruptcy
court
plows through all the records. It can take months.

I had a similar experience to John's a few years back in Florida.
I had a Scout stored at a boat yard storage and repair place.
The bank called a note on them and they were forced into
Chapter 7. There was no direct notice to those of us with boats at
the yard.

Similar to John, I became suspicious when I could no longer contact
them. I took a ride to the yard only to find it locked up with a steel gate
that was padlocked. I sat there for a while in my truck and noticed a van
pull up, unlock the gate and pulled into the yard. I quickly pulled up
behind him and entered as well.

The guy in the van got out and started yelling at me that they were
"closed".
By this time the situation was clear in my mind, so I pulled my truck around
him and backed it up to my boat and trailer. Told him I was taking my
boat.
He said I couldn't .. they were "bankrupt" and everything in the yard had
been
frozen by the court.

He ran into the building to call somebody.

Meanwhile, I noticed that the trailer had a flat tire. Another guy came
out
and helped me put a little air in the tire and he then got the keys to the
van
and moved it. Apparently he didn't realize what was going on.

I dragged the boat/trailer out of the yard to the nearest gas station to
fill up the
tire and then headed home. Checked the local "legal notices" for the town
and discovered they were in bankruptcy. Never heard from them again.

Eisboch



Good move. I think there's something to that 'possession is
nine-tenths' bit.

Anyway, I feel much better having the boat back under my control.

And, glad to see you're still alive and kicking. How's the shop? From
your web site it appears to be doing well. I know nothing of guitars,
so don't stick my head in your door.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving and that all are well.

Yeah, on Dec. 5 Tom and I are going up to the shop and I am gonna' have
my special guitar looked at. Might need a neck tweak!

I didn't cut my hair, and I ain't giving up my hat, so I may have to
drive myself Well, I do have a newer hat I may consider, but it's not
broke in yet (not smelly yet)

"John H" wrote in message
news

Good move. I think there's something to that 'possession is
nine-tenths' bit.

Anyway, I feel much better having the boat back under my control.

And, glad to see you're still alive and kicking. How's the shop? From
your web site it appears to be doing well. I know nothing of guitars,
so don't stick my head in your door.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving and that all are well.
--

John H


Doing well thanks. Stuck my head in here to see what's new. Seems to be a
few
more boating posts which is good but also still a lot of politicking and
name calling.

The music shop is consuming most of my time. It has grown more than I
originally
bargained for, but still is fun. Getting to meet a lot of interesting
people. Actually sold
a custom built guitar to a member of Bob Dylan's band. Actually the guitar
is going
to Dylan, but there were issues to get around. The band member is Donnie
Herron, a multi-instrument
player that has been with Dylan for about five years now, both in touring
performances and
recording sessions. He visited the shop, entertained us for a while (pros
are in another league)
and then tried one of the custom built guitars we have. He commented that
"Bob would love this
guitar". (It's a historic reproduction of a guitar built back around 1900).
He left, but later that
afternoon I got a telephone call. He said they were sending someone down
from Boston to
pick up the guitar and it would be on stage that night, which was the last
night of Dylan's performance
at the Wang Center.

Pretty exciting day, both for me and the luthier who built the guitar.

Take care and Happy "T" day to everyone.

Eisboch

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:06:23 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Take care and Happy "T" day to everyone.

And you too!

Stay in touch, we're here to advise you on your next boat. :-)

There's always a next boat.

In article ,
says...

"John H" wrote in message
news

Good move. I think there's something to that 'possession is
nine-tenths' bit.

Anyway, I feel much better having the boat back under my control.

And, glad to see you're still alive and kicking. How's the shop? From
your web site it appears to be doing well. I know nothing of guitars,
so don't stick my head in your door.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving and that all are well.
--

John H


Doing well thanks. Stuck my head in here to see what's new. Seems to be a
few
more boating posts which is good but also still a lot of politicking and
name calling.

The music shop is consuming most of my time. It has grown more than I
originally
bargained for, but still is fun. Getting to meet a lot of interesting
people. Actually sold
a custom built guitar to a member of Bob Dylan's band. Actually the guitar
is going
to Dylan, but there were issues to get around. The band member is Donnie
Herron, a multi-instrument
player that has been with Dylan for about five years now, both in touring
performances and
recording sessions. He visited the shop, entertained us for a while (pros
are in another league)
and then tried one of the custom built guitars we have. He commented that
"Bob would love this
guitar". (It's a historic reproduction of a guitar built back around 1900).
He left, but later that
afternoon I got a telephone call. He said they were sending someone down
from Boston to
pick up the guitar and it would be on stage that night, which was the last
night of Dylan's performance
at the Wang Center.

Pretty exciting day, both for me and the luthier who built the guitar.

Take care and Happy "T" day to everyone.

Eisboch

Glad you are having a great time!

Scotty

On Nov 25, 5:06*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

news


Good move. I think there's something to that 'possession is
nine-tenths' bit.

Anyway, I feel much better having the boat back under my control.

And, glad to see you're still alive and kicking. How's the shop? From
your web site it appears to be doing well. I know nothing of guitars,
so don't stick my head in your door.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving and that all are well.
--

John H

Doing well thanks. * Stuck my head in here to see what's new. *Seems to be a
few
more boating posts which is good but also still a lot of politicking and
name calling.

The music shop is consuming most of my time. *It has grown more than I
originally
bargained for, but still is fun. *Getting to meet a lot of interesting
people. *Actually sold
a custom built guitar to a member of Bob Dylan's band. * Actually the guitar
is going
to Dylan, but there were issues to get around. *The band member is Donnie
Herron, a multi-instrument
player that has been with Dylan for about five years now, both in touring
performances and
recording sessions. *He visited the shop, entertained us for a while (pros
are in another league)
and then tried one of the custom built guitars we have. *He commented that
"Bob would love this
guitar". *(It's a historic reproduction of a guitar built back around 1900).
He left, but later that
afternoon I got a telephone call. He said they were sending someone down
from Boston to
pick up the guitar and it would be on stage that night, which was the last
night of Dylan's performance
at the Wang Center.

Pretty exciting day, both for me and the luthier who built the guitar.

Take care and Happy "T" day to everyone.

Eisboch

Good to see you, Richard. Your board is fun too. But needs more
members!