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"Rob" wrote

Total bull****. The two types of trailers have nothing to do with storage
time and everything to do with launching and ramp conditions, SFB.

Rob

Logic would agree with that.

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Don White wrote:


~~ Snerk ~~. The Freak calling someone else "short"??
LMAO



Once again you are jumping into a post that had NOTHING to do with you
with this crap. Is this how your mission to improve this group works?
You better get a new plan, dummy.

Rob

Forget him, he is just trying to get sober and climbing off the baby
rat...

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Don White wrote:
"Steve wrote in message
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wrote

That would depend on the ramps in your area. I have bunk trailers on
both of my boats and would never have rollers. The ramps here are level
and in very good condition. Then there is the sal****er problem with
rollers...

Rob

I can see where that is a difference. In the south, we had tilt trailers,
as the ramps went down, and then the concrete or asphalt ended, and there
was usually a dropoff. And salt water does make a difference in
everything it touches. Our ramps here are gradual on the small lakes we
have here in Utah. I'm looking at a protractor, and I'd say 30 degrees
plus or minus. Hardly enough that I have seen anyone spin the tires on
launching, or really have a hard time pulling out.

My main thing is that I bought this used, and I really just don't like the
looks of it. The other advice that the keel can support almost all the
weight helped head me in one direction.

FWIW, I don't like to pull in very deep to launch or recover. So, I have
the taillights on top the gunnell guides. I like to back up until the
motor is in the water, and the rear end floats a bit. What I do next
depends on whether I launch by myself, or another person is in the truck.
When I have an assistant, I disconnect the winch, take the bowline, and
walk along the dock, have them back up until the boat fully floats, and
pull the boat back clear of the trailer.

My problem seems to be on retrieval, as it is hard to estimate how deep to
pull in the trailer so that it isn't floating too freely and I have a hard
time hooking up the bow eye because it is floating too high. I need to
have it so I can come in to something that centers the boat on the keel
rollers, then power the boat up a little. Then hook the winch snap on the
eye, and continue to pull out. (I have seen two boats dropped on ramps
with the strap disconnected from the bow eye, one launching, one
retrieving.)

Hope that this description helps to explain what I'm trying to do.
Currently, the trailer only has two long skids under the rear, a couple of
12"misaligned rollers towards the front that just touch at the end of the
rollers, and the Y that receives the bow keel. Looks narly just looking
at it, and I don't know that much about trailers, other than it doesn't
look too good to me.

I'm a welder, so have no problem cutting out the old and fitting new
rollers or hardware. And I have enough rigging experience to jack the
boat up a little to cut out the old and fit the new so it is a glove fit.
Just not sure what types or how many.

It's a Lund 16' Aluminum with 40 Merc, but it has flooring and console and
bench which adds just a few pounds more than a bare aluminum boat of the
same length.

Steve

The conventional wisdom...
bunks if you store your boat on the trailer for long periods
rollers if you launch and recover a lot



Total bull****. The two types of trailers have nothing to do with
storage time and everything to do with launching and ramp conditions, SFB.

Rob

Bonnie talking about "conventional wisdom", now that's funny...

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:55:15 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I need to have
it so I can come in to something that centers the boat on the keel
rollers,
then power the boat up a little.

Can't remember ever having a problem lining up my friends 18' but he
ran that show.
I have seen that Carolina Skiff owners put PCV pipes sticking up on
the trailer sides to act as guides to center the boat.

--Vic

My trailers have side guides. Helps in wind and current and ocean swells.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:19:47 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I cant understand why anyone would own a Bunk Trailer.

Bunks support the hull more evenly, no risk of "roller dimples".
Rollers require replacement and maintenance, bunks last a long time.

Rollers however are better on difficult ramps or launching with no
ramp at all.


The best is bunks with plastic on top. Boat slides easily. Lots of
support.

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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:08:59 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:19:47 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I cant understand why anyone would own a Bunk Trailer.

Bunks support the hull more evenly, no risk of "roller dimples".
Rollers require replacement and maintenance, bunks last a long time.

Rollers however are better on difficult ramps or launching with no
ramp at all.


The best is bunks with plastic on top. Boat slides easily. Lots of
support.


Bill, I think I saw in an earlier post a mention of a special plastic.
What was it, and how is it mounted on your bunks?
--

John H

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:08:59 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:19:47 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I cant understand why anyone would own a Bunk Trailer.

Bunks support the hull more evenly, no risk of "roller dimples".
Rollers require replacement and maintenance, bunks last a long time.

Rollers however are better on difficult ramps or launching with no
ramp at all.


The best is bunks with plastic on top. Boat slides easily. Lots of
support.


Bill, I think I saw in an earlier post a mention of a special plastic.
What was it, and how is it mounted on your bunks?
--

John H

UHMW. Screwed to the bunks. The new trailer is aluminum bunks, but you can
also get slide strips at West Marine. UHMW is available at a good plastics
supplier.
http://www.midlandplastics.com/srtd_polyolefins.htm
They use it in rock trucks to protect the bed and make the rocks slide out
easier.

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Steve B wrote:
wrote

Total bull****. The two types of trailers have nothing to do with storage
time and everything to do with launching and ramp conditions, SFB.

Rob

Logic would agree with that.



Of course. But not according to "conventional wisdom" as the group
dumbass stated.

Rob

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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:01:12 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:08:59 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:19:47 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I cant understand why anyone would own a Bunk Trailer.

Bunks support the hull more evenly, no risk of "roller dimples".
Rollers require replacement and maintenance, bunks last a long time.

Rollers however are better on difficult ramps or launching with no
ramp at all.


The best is bunks with plastic on top. Boat slides easily. Lots of
support.


Bill, I think I saw in an earlier post a mention of a special plastic.
What was it, and how is it mounted on your bunks?
--

John H

UHMW. Screwed to the bunks. The new trailer is aluminum bunks, but you can
also get slide strips at West Marine. UHMW is available at a good plastics
supplier.
http://www.midlandplastics.com/srtd_polyolefins.htm
They use it in rock trucks to protect the bed and make the rocks slide out
easier.


OK, that's a help. Now, is it cut into 2" strips and screwed on? How
thick are the pieces. I assume the screws are countersunk, so the
strips must be 1/2" or thereabouts?

I'm trying to picture this, but have never seen it before. Have a
picture by any chance?
--

John H

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:01:12 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:08:59 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:19:47 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I cant understand why anyone would own a Bunk Trailer.

Bunks support the hull more evenly, no risk of "roller dimples".
Rollers require replacement and maintenance, bunks last a long time.

Rollers however are better on difficult ramps or launching with no
ramp at all.


The best is bunks with plastic on top. Boat slides easily. Lots of
support.


Bill, I think I saw in an earlier post a mention of a special plastic.
What was it, and how is it mounted on your bunks?
--

John H

UHMW. Screwed to the bunks. The new trailer is aluminum bunks, but you
can
also get slide strips at West Marine. UHMW is available at a good plastics
supplier.
http://www.midlandplastics.com/srtd_polyolefins.htm
They use it in rock trucks to protect the bed and make the rocks slide out
easier.


OK, that's a help. Now, is it cut into 2" strips and screwed on? How
thick are the pieces. I assume the screws are countersunk, so the
strips must be 1/2" or thereabouts?

I'm trying to picture this, but have never seen it before. Have a
picture by any chance?
--

John H


Good Lord.
A lot of trailers I've seen come with the 'plastic coverings'.
Go look at Venture Trailers. I believe they call theirs 'poly sleeves'