On Nov 18, 9:20*am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.

See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.

No way. *The Italians do.

Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.

On 11/18/09 9:56 AM, Jack wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:20 am, wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.

See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.

No way. The Italians do.

Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.

Why buy a CZ 82 with its inferior Soviet Makarov cartridge when most of
the world prefers 9 mm Luger?

If you want a plain ordinary CZ in 9 mm, get a 75 B in one of the many
variants CZ offers. Far, far superior to the old 82, or the FN's or
Taurus Mr. Science recommends.


--
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or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
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the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

Jack wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:20 am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.
See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.
No way. The Italians do.
Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.
I have heard there can be good deals on those but I want to stick with
something mainstream for now.
A CZ75BD is on my short list.
I also have seen and liked:
Baretta 92FS
and Sig 26

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:17:46 -0500, achmed wrote:

Jack wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:20 am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.
See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.
No way. The Italians do.
Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.
I have heard there can be good deals on those but I want to stick with
something mainstream for now.
A CZ75BD is on my short list.
I also have seen and liked:
Baretta 92FS

My youngest had one of those - didn't like it. Does not mean that
it's a lousy gun though - he just didn't like it. He is into hand
guns though so I trust his opinion. Other's seem to like it.

and Sig 26

Just me talking here, but I think Sig as a manufacturer is highly over
rated.

Take it for what you will.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:17:46 -0500, achmed wrote:

Jack wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:20 am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.
See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.
No way. The Italians do.
Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?
I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.
I have heard there can be good deals on those but I want to stick with
something mainstream for now.
A CZ75BD is on my short list.
I also have seen and liked:
Baretta 92FS

My youngest had one of those - didn't like it. Does not mean that
it's a lousy gun though - he just didn't like it. He is into hand
guns though so I trust his opinion. Other's seem to like it.

and Sig 26

Just me talking here, but I think Sig as a manufacturer is highly over
rated.

Take it for what you will.

Was it the Baretta your son didn't like? Ask him what he didn't like if
you don't mind.

I think with SIG you are paying mostly for bragging rights, but that
wont stop me from buying one if I take a fancy to it.

By the way, I read a few reviews on the FNP-9 and they were all
favorable. One guy thought the barrel was kind of thin and he would have
liked a longer sight radius. No one bitched about the trigger, in fact
they all liked it.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:46:14 -0500, achmed wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:17:46 -0500, achmed wrote:

Jack wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:20 am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.
See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.
No way. The Italians do.
Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?
I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.
I have heard there can be good deals on those but I want to stick with
something mainstream for now.
A CZ75BD is on my short list.
I also have seen and liked:
Baretta 92FS

My youngest had one of those - didn't like it. Does not mean that
it's a lousy gun though - he just didn't like it. He is into hand
guns though so I trust his opinion. Other's seem to like it.

and Sig 26

Just me talking here, but I think Sig as a manufacturer is highly over
rated.

Take it for what you will.

Was it the Baretta your son didn't like? Ask him what he didn't like if
you don't mind.

I can do that - I'll call him tonight.

I think with SIG you are paying mostly for bragging rights, but that
wont stop me from buying one if I take a fancy to it.

Shouldn't really - half the time you are buying on reputation anyway
no matter what it is. And sometimes you pay for that.

I wouldn't turn one down certainly.

By the way, I read a few reviews on the FNP-9 and they were all
favorable. One guy thought the barrel was kind of thin and he would have
liked a longer sight radius. No one bitched about the trigger, in fact
they all liked it.

I liked it immediately. I have really stubby fingers and what with
the arthritis and joint swelling, the trigger action sold me right out
of the show case. And it fit my hand really nice with the optional
backstop.

I can see where the sight radius could be a problem, but I didn't find
it to be. I think a lot of that can come with how wide your eyes are
spaced - mine are wider than normal which provides a better
perspective. The barrel is thinner that you would expect, but not to
the point where I'd be concerned at all.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:56:45 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

On Nov 18, 9:20*am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.

See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.

No way. *The Italians do.

Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.

Is that Czech ammo or Russian? We shot off some Russian rounds and I
don't know what they add to the powder load, but it's some greasy
stuff. Don't care for that ammo at all.

On 11/18/09 11:24 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:56:45 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 18, 9:20 am, wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.

See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.

No way. The Italians do.

Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. 12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. Hard to go wrong.

Is that Czech ammo or Russian? We shot off some Russian rounds and I
don't know what they add to the powder load, but it's some greasy
stuff. Don't care for that ammo at all.


Russian ammo, especially the "Bear" brand, is notoriously dirty. The
Makarov cartridge was the SovBloc's response to the 9mm Luger round used
in non-communist Europe (and the rest of the world).


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

On Nov 18, 11:24*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:56:45 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:





On Nov 18, 9:20*am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.

See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.

No way. *The Italians do.

Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. *12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. *You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. *Hard to go wrong.

Is that Czech ammo or Russian? *We shot off some Russian rounds and I
don't know what they add to the powder load, but it's some greasy
stuff. *Don't care for that ammo at all.

This is new Russian stuff, not surplus. Silver Bear and Brown Bear
ammo. It's not reloadable, but who cares? I made a typo on the
price, it's actually around $115 for 500 rounds of 94 gr. FMJ. Fun to
plink with, and the 82 cleans up in 5 minutes.

Looks like the Czech made S&B ammo is about $160 for 500 rounds. It
might be cleaner? Never tried it.

On Nov 18, 1:37*pm, Jack wrote:
On Nov 18, 11:24*am, Tom Francis - SWSports





wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:56:45 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

On Nov 18, 9:20*am, achmed wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:57:49 -0500, Just John
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:15:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:27 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1153166.html
That is very cool.

See also Chiac, a mixed language based on French and English, and
Saint Mary's Bay French, a distinct variety of Acadian French spoken
around Saint Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia.
OK, but the Germans still make the best bread in Europe.

No way. *The Italians do.

Speaking of bread, who makes the best 9mm pistol under $1000?

I wouldn't say the best, but you can pick up a surplus Czech CZ-82 in
9mm Makarov for about $180. *12+1 capacity, accurate, easily stripped
and cleaned, and reliable. *You can pick up 500 rds of ammo for a
little more than $200. *Hard to go wrong.

Is that Czech ammo or Russian? *We shot off some Russian rounds and I
don't know what they add to the powder load, but it's some greasy
stuff. *Don't care for that ammo at all.

This is new Russian stuff, not surplus. *Silver Bear and Brown Bear
ammo. *It's not reloadable, but who cares? *I made a typo on the
price, it's actually around $115 for 500 rounds of 94 gr. FMJ. *Fun to
plink with, and the 82 cleans up in 5 minutes.

Looks like the Czech made S&B ammo is about $160 for 500 rounds. *It
might be cleaner? *Never tried it.

Oh, I tried the Russia Wolf ammo also... about the same as Bear in
price and performance.