On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

“We found that regardless of a physician’s political affiliation, the
respondents attributed the practice of defensive medicine to excessive
waste in the health care system,” said Rick Jackson, chairman and CEO
of
Jackson Healthcare, in a statement."

~~Sorry - no can do. Gotta keep the trial lawyers busy and rich.~~

The survey found that 62 percent of physicians disagreed with the
American Medical AssociationÂ’s (AMA) stance on health care reform. Of
those, 46 percent said they “strongly disagree” with the AMA’s
stance.

http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlan...9/daily1.html?
ana=fox

Heh - what a shock.

Yeah, what a shock. The CBO states that we could save $54 billion over
the next ten years, by instituting tort reform. Big whoop, that's 0.5%
of health care spending.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2009/10/09/
AR2009100904271.html

Oh, and 23 states already limit pain and suffering awards, and 34 states
already limit punitive awards. Doctors might be better served by
policing their ranks and getting rid of the incompetents. 5% of doctors
account for over 50% of the malpractice here. Get rid of those 5% and we
would have saved $21 billion, and a lot of pain and suffering.

http://www.tradewatch.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1222

On 11/12/09 6:55 AM, thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

“We found that regardless of a physician’s political affiliation, the
respondents attributed the practice of defensive medicine to excessive
waste in the health care system,” said Rick Jackson, chairman and CEO
of
Jackson Healthcare, in a statement."

~~Sorry - no can do. Gotta keep the trial lawyers busy and rich.~~

The survey found that 62 percent of physicians disagreed with the
American Medical AssociationÂ’s (AMA) stance on health care reform. Of
those, 46 percent said they “strongly disagree” with the AMA’s
stance.

http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlan...9/daily1.html?
ana=fox

Heh - what a shock.

Yeah, what a shock. The CBO states that we could save $54 billion over
the next ten years, by instituting tort reform. Big whoop, that's 0.5%
of health care spending.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2009/10/09/
AR2009100904271.html

Oh, and 23 states already limit pain and suffering awards, and 34 states
already limit punitive awards. Doctors might be better served by
policing their ranks and getting rid of the incompetents. 5% of doctors
account for over 50% of the malpractice here. Get rid of those 5% and we
would have saved $21 billion, and a lot of pain and suffering.

http://www.tradewatch.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1222


Not to worry...next on Tom's regurgitated GOP talking post list: the
miracle-like drop in insurance premiums if only those non-competing
corporations could ignore state borders.

Better...eliminate the exemption health insurers have from anti-trust
laws, beginning 1 January 2010. Oh...wait...that's not what the
corporate creed calls for.




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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

“We found that regardless of a physician’s political affiliation, the
respondents attributed the practice of defensive medicine to excessive
waste in the health care system,” said Rick Jackson, chairman and CEO
of
Jackson Healthcare, in a statement."

~~Sorry - no can do. Gotta keep the trial lawyers busy and rich.~~

The survey found that 62 percent of physicians disagreed with the
American Medical Association’s (AMA) stance on health care reform. Of
those, 46 percent said they “strongly disagree” with the AMA’s
stance.

http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlan...9/daily1.html?
ana=fox

Heh - what a shock.

Yeah, what a shock. The CBO states that we could save $54 billion over
the next ten years, by instituting tort reform. Big whoop, that's 0.5%
of health care spending.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2009/10/09/
AR2009100904271.html

Oh, and 23 states already limit pain and suffering awards, and 34 states
already limit punitive awards. Doctors might be better served by
policing their ranks and getting rid of the incompetents. 5% of doctors
account for over 50% of the malpractice here. Get rid of those 5% and we
would have saved $21 billion, and a lot of pain and suffering.

http://www.tradewatch.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1222

How many times is that $54 billion exceeded by cover your ass extra
diagnostic tests?

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:03:57 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

How many times is that $54 billion exceeded by cover your ass extra
diagnostic tests?

Actual real case.

1 - Two doctors are sued for not catching a PE (pulmonary embolism) in
an otherwise healthy 50 yo woman with no prior history of asthma,
heart disease, non-smoker.

2 - Husband sues for 10 million dollars.

3 - Husband wraps himself around a telephone pole in his car drunk and
dies.

4 - Case is picked up by son who left home at 16 and hadn't seen or
contacted his mother in five years.

5 - Son is arrested for heroin possesion with intent to distribute,
assault on a police officer and various other charges.

6 - Case is picked up by sister who promptly moves to another state
and drops case due to indifference.

7 - Case is transferred to Federal Court and picked up by Nephew in
Nebraska.

8 - Nephew deployed to Iraq, additional plaintiff picked up - First
Cousin also in Nebraska.

9 - Case moved to pre-trial where plaintiff's offered to settle for 6
million - rejected.

10 - Case moved to trial - four days. Jury takes one hour to
deliberate and finds doctors not guilty with no award.

11 - Case moved to Federal Appeals and rejected.

12 - Case moved back to state court with additional plaintiff -
another First Cousin.

13 Case settled for $750,000.

Total years - 9.
Total expenses (practice) - $650,000.
Total expenses (insurance) - 2.7 million
Lost wages: 1 million (practice had to be shut down for a total of
four weeks)
Practice legal counsel: $400,000

Total cost: $5.5 million dollars

Multiply that by how many?

That's where the costs are - it's not the awards - it's the defense
expenses that cost. And the additional malpractice and ommissions and
commissions insurance expenses to protect themselves from these trial
vultures that will sue for anything and keep on suing until they get
something.

The only good thing that came out of this particular case by the way
wsa that the plaintiffs recieved, after expenses, $3,000 apiece.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:03:57 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

How many times is that $54 billion exceeded by cover your ass extra
diagnostic tests?

Actual real case.

1 - Two doctors are sued for not catching a PE (pulmonary embolism) in
an otherwise healthy 50 yo woman with no prior history of asthma,
heart disease, non-smoker.

2 - Husband sues for 10 million dollars.

3 - Husband wraps himself around a telephone pole in his car drunk and
dies.

4 - Case is picked up by son who left home at 16 and hadn't seen or
contacted his mother in five years.

5 - Son is arrested for heroin possesion with intent to distribute,
assault on a police officer and various other charges.

6 - Case is picked up by sister who promptly moves to another state
and drops case due to indifference.

7 - Case is transferred to Federal Court and picked up by Nephew in
Nebraska.

8 - Nephew deployed to Iraq, additional plaintiff picked up - First
Cousin also in Nebraska.

9 - Case moved to pre-trial where plaintiff's offered to settle for 6
million - rejected.

10 - Case moved to trial - four days. Jury takes one hour to
deliberate and finds doctors not guilty with no award.

11 - Case moved to Federal Appeals and rejected.

12 - Case moved back to state court with additional plaintiff -
another First Cousin.

13 Case settled for $750,000.

Total years - 9.
Total expenses (practice) - $650,000.
Total expenses (insurance) - 2.7 million
Lost wages: 1 million (practice had to be shut down for a total of
four weeks)
Practice legal counsel: $400,000

Total cost: $5.5 million dollars

Multiply that by how many?

That's where the costs are - it's not the awards - it's the defense
expenses that cost. And the additional malpractice and ommissions and
commissions insurance expenses to protect themselves from these trial
vultures that will sue for anything and keep on suing until they get
something.

The only good thing that came out of this particular case by the way
wsa that the plaintiffs recieved, after expenses, $3,000 apiece.

And you wonder why the Trail Lawyers don't want to stop the madness? And
then why Pelosi won't put anything in the bill to address it? Aren't the
trial lawyers some of the biggest donators to the Democrats?
HUmmmmmmmm...

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:56:35 -0800, I am Tosk
wrote:

The only good thing that came out of this particular case by the way
wsa that the plaintiffs recieved, after expenses, $3,000 apiece.

And you wonder why the Trail Lawyers don't want to stop the madness? And
then why Pelosi won't put anything in the bill to address it? Aren't the
trial lawyers some of the biggest donators to the Democrats?
HUmmmmmmmm...


This is pretty telling

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/sectors.php?sector=K

OpenSecrets is actually a valuable resource. They actually take the
raw FEC numbers and sort them by just about every criteria you want to
see.

Hummmm, Dodd, Obama, and Clinton seem to be on a lot of these top donors
lists and lists of orgs and businesses that have bankrupt America....
Obama, Kerry and Dodd (in that order) from Freddie and fannie.. and
several others..