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H the K[_4_] November 6th 09 11:56 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured


Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.

TopBassDog November 6th 09 12:24 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Nov 6, 5:56*am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed.."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.


Herr Krause is just another let-wing lune. Dime a dozen around here.

Jim November 6th 09 12:31 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:56 am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.


Herr Krause is just another let-wing lune. Dime a dozen around here.


Harry free day is coming up on Nov 11. Can we count on your support?

TopBassDog November 6th 09 12:34 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Nov 6, 6:31*am, Jim wrote:
TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:56 am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured


Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.


House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.


Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.


Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.


Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.


Tosk November 6th 09 01:16 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
In article ,
says...

TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:56 am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.


Herr Krause is just another let-wing lune. Dime a dozen around here.


Harry free day is coming up on Nov 11. Can we count on your support?


You should make it a Harry free year...

--
Wafa free again.

Jim November 6th 09 01:25 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:56 am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.
Herr Krause is just another let-wing lune. Dime a dozen around here.

Harry free day is coming up on Nov 11. Can we count on your support?


You should make it a Harry free year...

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.

Tosk November 6th 09 01:40 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
In article ,
says...

Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:56 am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.
Herr Krause is just another let-wing lune. Dime a dozen around here.
Harry free day is coming up on Nov 11. Can we count on your support?


You should make it a Harry free year...

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


Isn't that the best possible outcome?

--
Wafa free again.

Tom Francis - SWSports November 6th 09 02:13 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!

H the K[_4_] November 6th 09 02:57 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/6/09 8:40 AM, Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:56 am, H the wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.
Herr Krause is just another let-wing lune. Dime a dozen around here.
Harry free day is coming up on Nov 11. Can we count on your support?

You should make it a Harry free year...

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


Isn't that the best possible outcome?



snerk I see the morons are still tweaking their idiot buddies...


RLM November 6th 09 03:26 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!


Tommy

Use your chat room to apologize to the sissies that keep you in their
group. The rest of us know you to be bipolar and go off on rantings. The
rest tend to ignore any postings of yours that are not just copies of
others work product. We have seen it before. Take the pill that makes you
smaller. The one that Alice gives you doesn't do anything at all.

Reguards,
RLM


Wayne.B November 6th 09 03:26 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away


It's important to understand that he lives for those moments.
Sociopaths have an odd way of keeping score, totaling in keeping with
their mental illness.


Tosk November 6th 09 03:33 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!


Tommy

Use your chat room to apologize to the sissies that keep you in their
group. The rest of us know you to be bipolar and go off on rantings. The
rest tend to ignore any postings of yours that are not just copies of
others work product. We have seen it before. Take the pill that makes you
smaller. The one that Alice gives you doesn't do anything at all.

Reguards,
RLM


What "chat room"? Either way, you have the power to ignore him if you
wish. If you are not strong enough to do that, you might reconsider
usenet... Here is how it's done, plonk see, easy...

--
Wafa free again.

H the K[_2_] November 6th 09 03:37 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/6/09 10:26 AM, RLM wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!


Tommy

Use your chat room to apologize to the sissies that keep you in their
group. The rest of us know you to be bipolar and go off on rantings. The
rest tend to ignore any postings of yours that are not just copies of
others work product. We have seen it before. Take the pill that makes you
smaller. The one that Alice gives you doesn't do anything at all.

Reguards,
RLM




Oooooohhh....

Now you are really going to be ****ing off the rec.boats wookie...

I've noticed and commented on the wookie's fairly wild mood swings
before. Maybe you've hit the nail on the head, as it were.

H the K[_2_] November 6th 09 03:41 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/6/09 10:26 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away


It's important to understand that he lives for those moments.
Sociopaths have an odd way of keeping score, totaling in keeping with
their mental illness.



So, you concur that tom has some sort of mental illness. good for you.

Jim November 6th 09 04:40 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!


That's worth repeating. Hee Hee

Jim November 6th 09 04:47 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
RLM wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.

And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!


Tommy

Use your chat room to apologize to the sissies that keep you in their
group. The rest of us know you to be bipolar and go off on rantings. The
rest tend to ignore any postings of yours that are not just copies of
others work product. We have seen it before. Take the pill that makes you
smaller. The one that Alice gives you doesn't do anything at all.

Reguards,
RLM

We'll have none of that talk around here, asshole. Pee-lon-KKK

Tom Francis - SWSports November 6th 09 05:21 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:26:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away


It's important to understand that he lives for those moments.
Sociopaths have an odd way of keeping score, totaling in keeping with
their mental illness.


True.

Wayne.B November 6th 09 05:22 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:26:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away


It's important to understand that he lives for those moments.
Sociopaths have an odd way of keeping score, totaling in keeping with
their mental illness.


Hmmm, make that "totally".


H the K[_2_] November 6th 09 06:07 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/6/09 12:21 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:26:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away


It's important to understand that he lives for those moments.
Sociopaths have an odd way of keeping score, totaling in keeping with
their mental illness.


True.



Your therapist tell you that, too?

jps November 6th 09 06:23 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:56:39 -0500, H the K
wrote:

Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured


Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.


A Democrat with a spine and a brain. If you enjoy watching him roll
over Republicans, Grayson schooling Paul Broun on the constitution is
a thing of beauty...

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/..._constitution/

jps November 6th 09 06:29 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

One step at a time. If we go cold turkey, his head might implode.


And that would be a bad thing? Although I don't think it would be an
implosion as it were. There is already a vacuum inside his cranium so
it would have to be a reintroduction of the fecal matter he normally
uses as brain matter and introduce an overpressure condition causing
an explosion.

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who
Must Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened
one of his nasty little comments and got carried away - again it would
appear in this post.

So for that, I apologize to the group for running off the deep end a
little bit. Sorry - my bad.

With respect to He Who Must Not Be Named - well frankly he's a
infected pustule on the ass of rec.boats and his trained monkeys who
follow him around, while annoying, only respond to his posturing. The
only answer would be surgery and as of this second, that's what I'm
going to do - excise him surgically (in a metaphorical sense you
understand) responding only to the normal folks here.

Excelsior!!!


Isn't it interesting that you'd join in derailing a post about Alan
Grayson to focus the spotlight on yourself...

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Getting enough attention lately Tom? Need a little more?

GC Boater November 7th 09 12:37 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Nov 6, 5:56*am, H the K wrote:
Republicans Fail to Stop Rep. Grayson From Reciting Body Count of Uninsured

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night.

House Republicans failed in an attempt Wednesday to prevent outspoken
Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., from reading aloud the number of people he
claims have died for lack of health insurance in every GOP member's
district.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., tried to stop the Florida Democrat in the
middle of his reading on the House floor Wednesday night. Grayson has
agitated Republicans in recent weeks for accusing them of wanting sick
Americans to "die quickly" and for making other incendiary comments.

Grayson was compelled to apologize for some remarks, most recently for
calling an adviser to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke a "whore."
But Republicans could not force an apology out of him Wednesday.

Gingrey called for a review of Grayson's words, which could have forced
the lawmaker to either apologize or stop speaking. But after the House
went into recess for an hour, Grayson's words were ruled to be in order.

And then he continued to read out the number of people he says have died
in every Republican's district -- which he calculated based on the
statistics of uninsured residents released by the Urban Institute.

"We now return to our regularly scheduled program," Grayson said as he
resumed. "The effort to keep me from doing what I'm doing here has failed.."

The effort to reprimand Grayson comes after Republican Rep. Joe Wilson,
S.C., was formally admonished by his colleagues for shouting "you lie"
at President Obama during his health care address in September.

- - -

Deee-licious.



On September 26, 2009 Krausie typed with his own fat fingers:

“Very few of the few posts I post initiate political crap!”

RLM November 7th 09 04:16 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:26:40 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I'm actually a little ashamed of myself this morning - I let He Who Must
Not Be named get to me for some reason. I accidentally opened one of
his nasty little comments and got carried away


It's important to understand that he lives for those moments. Sociopaths
have an odd way of keeping score, totaling in keeping with their mental
illness.


How many of you does it take to stroke his ego back to top poster with no
argument value.

This post has made you his chimp too.


Normally I wouldn't bother with you but I wanted to try out a different
news reader after installing a new system. I possibly will return to the
old version of Pan again. I don't see what "thunder" sees in the later
versions of Pan. Linux - always newer and more up to date than Windows
(TM) and without the hassle. I can't believe more of you haven't caught
on for free. I threw a newer video card in another box and it was picked
up and working when I booted. I'll connect it to the TV. I did have to
use a Windows XP driver for a Linksys N wireless card. But it's all good.

You keep that Gate's boy in beer money, I understand he also uses much of
it for the good of mankind. So, not such a bad investment if you want
someone else to name your charity.

I bet I hear how well it works. If not I'll read it for myself.


thunder November 7th 09 04:33 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:23 +0000, rlm wrote:


I possibly will return to the
old version of Pan again. I don't see what "thunder" sees in the later
versions of Pan. Linux - always newer and more up to date than Windows
(TM) and without the hassle. I can't believe more of you haven't caught
on for free.


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.

H the K[_2_] November 7th 09 04:41 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/7/09 11:33 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:23 +0000, rlm wrote:


I possibly will return to the
old version of Pan again. I don't see what "thunder" sees in the later
versions of Pan. Linux - always newer and more up to date than Windows
(TM) and without the hassle. I can't believe more of you haven't caught
on for free.


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.



Debian unstable?

Is that an actual name for a linux release?

:)

I'm running Max OS X, 10.6.1 on my macs, and Windows Server
2003/Hybrid/Windows Home Server on my, you guessed it, Windows Home
Server. OS nomenclature is so coooooooool!

Oh, and under VMWare Fusion 3, I've got Windoze Vista running on my
desktop, and under BootCamp, Windoze Vista on my laptop. Isn't life
exciting? :)





RLM November 7th 09 04:48 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:23 +0000, rlm wrote:


I possibly will return to the
old version of Pan again. I don't see what "thunder" sees in the later
versions of Pan. Linux - always newer and more up to date than Windows
(TM) and without the hassle. I can't believe more of you haven't caught
on for free.


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006
rewrite, but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and
this is the version that comes with it. It does what I need.


I always liked and continued to use Pan-0.14.2-1. I will probably return
to it. I used to use Red Hat until Fedora came out. I switched to
Mandrake, now Mandriva, this is the first free version I've used for a
few years. I got Powerpack versions for a few years. Try out 2010 free
for now.


thunder November 7th 09 05:06 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:41:38 -0500, H the K wrote:

On 11/7/09 11:33 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:23 +0000, rlm wrote:


I possibly will return to the
old version of Pan again. I don't see what "thunder" sees in the later
versions of Pan. Linux - always newer and more up to date than Windows
(TM) and without the hassle. I can't believe more of you haven't
caught on for free.


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006
rewrite, but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and
this is the version that comes with it. It does what I need.



Debian unstable?

Is that an actual name for a linux release?


Yup, Debian does it a little different than most of the other distros.
It has stable, testing, and unstable. One of the bitches about Debian,
is it's slow release cycle, but by the time packages get to stable, they
are well tested. Slow release cycle, but rock solid. Unstable is
bleeding edge, and can break, but I've been using it for years, and have
only had a broken system twice, and it was fixed within a couple of
days. I wouldn't use unstable on a production server, but for home use,
no worries.

:)

I'm running Max OS X, 10.6.1 on my macs, and Windows Server
2003/Hybrid/Windows Home Server on my, you guessed it, Windows Home
Server. OS nomenclature is so coooooooool!

Oh, and under VMWare Fusion 3, I've got Windoze Vista running on my
desktop, and under BootCamp, Windoze Vista on my laptop. Isn't life
exciting? :)


What's Windows? ;-)


Tom Francis - SWSports November 7th 09 07:41 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600, thunder
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.


If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)

H the K[_2_] November 7th 09 07:45 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/7/09 2:41 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600,
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.


If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)



I've got a one-owner, low mileage iMac you could buy:

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 3.06 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.30f1
Serial Number (system): XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Hardware UUID: 88F15404-1DFF-5D8B-8EF6-219FF85AB04B

24" monitor, 500 gig hard drive.

:)

jps November 8th 09 12:18 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:06:13 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:41:38 -0500, H the K wrote:

On 11/7/09 11:33 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:23 +0000, rlm wrote:


I possibly will return to the
old version of Pan again. I don't see what "thunder" sees in the later
versions of Pan. Linux - always newer and more up to date than Windows
(TM) and without the hassle. I can't believe more of you haven't
caught on for free.

I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006
rewrite, but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and
this is the version that comes with it. It does what I need.



Debian unstable?

Is that an actual name for a linux release?


Yup, Debian does it a little different than most of the other distros.
It has stable, testing, and unstable. One of the bitches about Debian,
is it's slow release cycle, but by the time packages get to stable, they
are well tested. Slow release cycle, but rock solid. Unstable is
bleeding edge, and can break, but I've been using it for years, and have
only had a broken system twice, and it was fixed within a couple of
days. I wouldn't use unstable on a production server, but for home use,
no worries.

:)

I'm running Max OS X, 10.6.1 on my macs, and Windows Server
2003/Hybrid/Windows Home Server on my, you guessed it, Windows Home
Server. OS nomenclature is so coooooooool!

Oh, and under VMWare Fusion 3, I've got Windoze Vista running on my
desktop, and under BootCamp, Windoze Vista on my laptop. Isn't life
exciting? :)


What's Windows? ;-)


Pardon me if I continue to use it. The proximity and his resources
have made a difference in my life and the lives of my family.

Don't know if I'd feel the same if it was Eric Prince and Blackwater.

jps November 8th 09 12:20 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:45:01 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/7/09 2:41 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600,
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.


If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)



I've got a one-owner, low mileage iMac you could buy:

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 3.06 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.30f1
Serial Number (system): XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Hardware UUID: 88F15404-1DFF-5D8B-8EF6-219FF85AB04B

24" monitor, 500 gig hard drive.

:)


What are you asking? I may be looking for a replacement for the kid's
Motorola powered Imac.

H the K[_2_] November 8th 09 12:28 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/7/09 7:20 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:45:01 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/7/09 2:41 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600,
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.

If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)



I've got a one-owner, low mileage iMac you could buy:

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 3.06 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.30f1
Serial Number (system): XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Hardware UUID: 88F15404-1DFF-5D8B-8EF6-219FF85AB04B

24" monitor, 500 gig hard drive.

:)


What are you asking? I may be looking for a replacement for the kid's
Motorola powered Imac.



I haven't gotten that far yet...forgot that it includes at least two
more years of Apple's three year extended warranty.

Flip me an email at








thunder November 8th 09 01:51 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:41:40 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might give
Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of several
projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little Windows
glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.


Well, if you really are interested, there are a couple of ways you can
go. Before doing anything to the hard drive, try a Live CD. It runs off
of the CD, and doesn't change the system at all. It will give you a
taste of what Linux is, but remember, because it is running off of a CD,
it will be slower than if installed.

I would suggest Ubuntu. It's modern, and relatively newbie friendly.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

If you like it, it can be installed from the same CD. It will partition
your disk, leaving your Windows install alone. If you have enough space,
obviously.

Personally, I prefer Debian. Perhaps it is not as newbie friendly, but
from the first time I tried it, I knew I found a home. ;-)

Anyway, if you do try Linux, let me know if you run into any problems.
If I don't know the answer, I know where to find the answer. ;-)

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)


Nothing for nothing, in the early days, a Mac was it for graphics. I'm
not so sure that is the case anymore. The lines are blurring. One can
do just as well, whether on a PC, a Mac, or even a Linux system. It's
more the program, and one's level of comfort and expertise with that
program.


thunder November 8th 09 01:55 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:18:42 -0800, jps wrote:


What's Windows? ;-)


Pardon me if I continue to use it. The proximity and his resources have
made a difference in my life and the lives of my family.


Hey, whatever floats your boat. It's all about choice. I'm a Linux fan,
not a Linux fanatic. Personally, I break out in hives every time I have
to use Windows, but that's just me. ;-)

jps November 8th 09 01:58 AM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:55:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:18:42 -0800, jps wrote:


What's Windows? ;-)


Pardon me if I continue to use it. The proximity and his resources have
made a difference in my life and the lives of my family.


Hey, whatever floats your boat. It's all about choice. I'm a Linux fan,
not a Linux fanatic. Personally, I break out in hives every time I have
to use Windows, but that's just me. ;-)


Understood. He has in fact helped me float my boat.

BAR[_2_] November 8th 09 01:26 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600, thunder
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.


If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)


Buy a small, 2 to 4 TB, external storage device.
Buy a "big PC" 4 or 8 processor, dual quad core, with 32 GB RAM.
Buy VMWare.
Run both Windows and Linux, Red Hat ES 5, at the same time.

If you have the cache, pun intended, and what to go large let me know
and I'll give you the specs on a real farm.


H the K[_4_] November 8th 09 04:14 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/8/09 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:26:47 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600,
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.

If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)


Buy a small, 2 to 4 TB, external storage device.
Buy a "big PC" 4 or 8 processor, dual quad core, with 32 GB RAM.
Buy VMWare.
Run both Windows and Linux, Red Hat ES 5, at the same time.

If you have the cache, pun intended, and what to go large let me know
and I'll give you the specs on a real farm.


If I ever decide to take the Linux plunge I would just do it with a
hardware dual boot machine. I already have a few, switching from DOS
to Windoze. You only have to put a switch on the master/slave jumpers
on the drives. Flip it one way it boots DOS, the other way it boots
Windoze. I have 2 new machines that will let you do the same thing
right in the BIOS.
XP will let you set D: "active" so you don't need to switch jumpers.



DOS? You're still running DOS? You're the man!


BAR[_2_] November 8th 09 04:21 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:26:47 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600, thunder
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.

If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)


Buy a small, 2 to 4 TB, external storage device.
Buy a "big PC" 4 or 8 processor, dual quad core, with 32 GB RAM.
Buy VMWare.
Run both Windows and Linux, Red Hat ES 5, at the same time.

If you have the cache, pun intended, and what to go large let me know
and I'll give you the specs on a real farm.


If I ever decide to take the Linux plunge I would just do it with a
hardware dual boot machine. I already have a few, switching from DOS
to Windoze. You only have to put a switch on the master/slave jumpers
on the drives. Flip it one way it boots DOS, the other way it boots
Windoze. I have 2 new machines that will let you do the same thing
right in the BIOS.
XP will let you set D: "active" so you don't need to switch jumpers.


Why don't you use LILO, Linux Loader, to dual boot if that is all you
want. LILO comes with most all Linux distributions. No switch on the
master/slave jumpers just hit the space bar when booting. LILO has been
around for near 20 years. If you want to run, actually run, multiple
OSes at the same time get VMWare and you can switch between the OSes
with a couple of keystrokes.



H the K[_2_] November 8th 09 04:41 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On 11/8/09 11:21 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:26:47 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:24 -0600,
wrote:


I think I actually might have preferred Pan previous to the 2006 rewrite,
but not enough to pin it. I'm running Debian unstable, and this is the
version that comes with it. It does what I need.

If I ever get around to building a couple of new computers, I might
give Linux a try and reload all the graphics and video software over
again.

The problem now is overwriting Windows on all the computers - don't
think I really want to do that - in particular in the middle of
several projects I've got going. But I am getting tired of the little
Windows glitches that keep cropping up even with XP Pro.

Plus I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac for the graphics and
video stuff I've been doing - that's a maybe, but I'm being pushed in
that direction by some of my collegues and friends.

We'll see. :)

Buy a small, 2 to 4 TB, external storage device.
Buy a "big PC" 4 or 8 processor, dual quad core, with 32 GB RAM.
Buy VMWare.
Run both Windows and Linux, Red Hat ES 5, at the same time.

If you have the cache, pun intended, and what to go large let me know
and I'll give you the specs on a real farm.


If I ever decide to take the Linux plunge I would just do it with a
hardware dual boot machine. I already have a few, switching from DOS
to Windoze. You only have to put a switch on the master/slave jumpers
on the drives. Flip it one way it boots DOS, the other way it boots
Windoze. I have 2 new machines that will let you do the same thing
right in the BIOS.
XP will let you set D: "active" so you don't need to switch jumpers.


Why don't you use LILO, Linux Loader, to dual boot if that is all you
want. LILO comes with most all Linux distributions. No switch on the
master/slave jumpers just hit the space bar when booting. LILO has been
around for near 20 years. If you want to run, actually run, multiple
OSes at the same time get VMWare and you can switch between the OSes
with a couple of keystrokes.




Why take the LINUX plunge at all, unless you absolutely need something
LINUX or an app that runs under it offers?

Hell, you can *buy* a fully supported OS for $30, one that boots up
without question on the hardware for which it was designed, and is
maintained by professionals, *and* offers in-person and over the phone
support by people who speak...English?



thunder November 8th 09 04:46 PM

The 'reading of the dead'
 
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:21:52 -0500, BAR wrote:


Why don't you use LILO, Linux Loader, to dual boot if that is all you
want. LILO comes with most all Linux distributions. No switch on the
master/slave jumpers just hit the space bar when booting. LILO has been
around for near 20 years. If you want to run, actually run, multiple
OSes at the same time get VMWare and you can switch between the OSes
with a couple of keystrokes.


If you are using a modern distribution, don't be surprised if it comes
with Grub as it's boot-loader, instead of Lilo. BAR is right about using
a virtual machine, though. I use VirtualBox. If you are so inclined,
you can even lose some of Windows bloat by parrying it down with nLite.

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