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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:59 -0400, Keith Nuttle
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat.

How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named
on
the title and/or registration, and can you contact them?

If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue
the
seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other
details.


If you have a Florida Registration number on the side of the boat,
contact Florida find the last legitimate person to register the boat
with that number.

That's what the GA DNR suggested, but the FL DMV won't tell me
anything about it. I asked them if they could at least tell me
whether it was stolen or not and they wouldn't even say that.

Working both ends, from the last legitimate owner and
the person you purchased the boat from, you should be able to get
something accomplished.

The person you dealt with in the purchase could be guilty of dealing
with stolen merchandise.

I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it
right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale
that might help him if things eventually get ugly.

Sounds like the first bunch of fruitcakes didn't own the boat they sold
which would make it hot.
The guy that sold it to you didn't do it right. Just because he signed a
bill of sale doesn't make him or the transaction legit. H didn't legally
own the boat since he didn't have a FL title and guess what? Neither do
you.
Paying for stolen goods does not make them yours. It makes you a
criminal. You should be looking out for your own ass, not his.


At last, a reasonable man.

Now's the time to either get clear paper to it, get clear of it, or have
an officer turn up at your door with papers and handcuffs wanting the
boat and taking custody of the OP for possession and interstate
transportation of a stolen chattel (Dyer Act, a federal crime), or pay
the man when one of the crazies involved in the plot comes back and sez
they want their boat back and he's out the dough and the boat and may be
fined.

Steve

I agree Steve. Seems like there's always a hiccup or 3 with deals that
seem too good to be true.


I thought so, too, when I recently bought a Lund. The husband was out of
town working. I had the wife show up at DMV with a notarized bill of sale,
which she did, and it flew right through. Nothing like having the primary
parties together, and if they don't want to do that, it's just thank you
very much and a quick hang-up of the phone.

Steve


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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to
register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person
must get the title and registration info of the last person who
registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number


The Florida Crime Information center.

"Stolen License/Boat Decals Search"
http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/item...eDecalSearch.a
"Stolen Boats Search"
http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/item...ayBoatSearch.a

of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded)
keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across
state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it
should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time,
up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been
able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal
offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell
me how to contact the person who still has title and
registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and
also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently
don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would
rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and
possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any
suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened
out?


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