I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to
register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person
must get the title and registration info of the last person who
registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number
of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded)
keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across
state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it
should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time,
up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been
able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal
offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell
me how to contact the person who still has title and
registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and
also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently
don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would
rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and
possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any
suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened
out?

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I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to
register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person
must get the title and registration info of the last person who
registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number
of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded)
keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across
state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it
should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time,
up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been
able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal
offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell
me how to contact the person who still has title and
registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and
also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently
don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would
rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and
possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any
suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened
out?

"the brother" and "his woman" are likely in on the deal.... It's very likely
a stolen boat and you have been had... I hope you didn't spend to much money
on the boat.

Get the authorities involved, you might have a chance at getting your money
back, however doubtful. Have you been able to contact the guy you bought in
from in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave you bogus
contact info?

I'm not trying to be an ass, it just sounds like you are dealing with
thieves to me...

Good luck,
JT

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:43:14 -0700, "JT"
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I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to
register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person
must get the title and registration info of the last person who
registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number
of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded)
keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across
state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it
should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time,
up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been
able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal
offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell
me how to contact the person who still has title and
registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and
also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently
don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would
rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with
"the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and
possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any
suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened
out?

"the brother" and "his woman" are likely in on the deal.... It's very likely
a stolen boat and you have been had... I hope you didn't spend to much money
on the boat.

Get the authorities involved, you might have a chance at getting your money
back, however doubtful. Have you been able to contact the guy you bought in
from in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave you bogus
contact info?

I'm not trying to be an ass, it just sounds like you are dealing with
thieves to me...

The guy I bought it from signed a bill of sale and went with me
to have it notorized. The people he got it from, who brought it
here from FL, haven't provided anything and have refused to give
me contact information on the supposed "brother" they got it
from.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat.

How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named on
the title and/or registration, and can you contact them?

If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the
seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other
details.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat.

How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named on
the title and/or registration, and can you contact them?

If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the
seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other
details.


If you have a Florida Registration number on the side of the boat,
contact Florida find the last legitimate person to register the boat
with that number. Working both ends, from the last legitimate owner and
the person you purchased the boat from, you should be able to get
something accomplished.

The person you dealt with in the purchase could be guilty of dealing
with stolen merchandise.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:59 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat.

How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named on
the title and/or registration, and can you contact them?

If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the
seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other
details.


If you have a Florida Registration number on the side of the boat,
contact Florida find the last legitimate person to register the boat
with that number.

That's what the GA DNR suggested, but the FL DMV won't tell me
anything about it. I asked them if they could at least tell me
whether it was stolen or not and they wouldn't even say that.

Working both ends, from the last legitimate owner and
the person you purchased the boat from, you should be able to get
something accomplished.

The person you dealt with in the purchase could be guilty of dealing
with stolen merchandise.

I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it
right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale
that might help him if things eventually get ugly.

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I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it
right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale
that might help him if things eventually get ugly.

Sounds ugly already to me.

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I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it
right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale
that might help him if things eventually get ugly.

Sounds ugly already to me.

I think this guy knows the boat is sketchy and is looking for someone
here to tell him it's ok to keep it. He has played this game too long
already, if it is hot, I hope he get's busted.

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:59 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat.

How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named on
the title and/or registration, and can you contact them?

If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the
seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other
details.


If you have a Florida Registration number on the side of the boat,
contact Florida find the last legitimate person to register the boat
with that number.

That's what the GA DNR suggested, but the FL DMV won't tell me
anything about it. I asked them if they could at least tell me
whether it was stolen or not and they wouldn't even say that.

Working both ends, from the last legitimate owner and
the person you purchased the boat from, you should be able to get
something accomplished.

The person you dealt with in the purchase could be guilty of dealing
with stolen merchandise.

I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it
right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale
that might help him if things eventually get ugly.

Sounds like the first bunch of fruitcakes didn't own the boat they sold
which would make it hot.
The guy that sold it to you didn't do it right. Just because he signed a
bill of sale doesn't make him or the transaction legit. H didn't legally own
the boat since he didn't have a FL title and guess what? Neither do you.
Paying for stolen goods does not make them yours. It makes you a criminal.
You should be looking out for your own ass, not his.

On Oct 29, 6:31*am, "mmc" wrote:
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:59 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote:

I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where
the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person
I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone
else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the
title and never has registered the boat.

How do you know it is titled in Florida? * Do you know who is named on
the title and/or registration, and can you contact them?

If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the
seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other
details.

If you have a Florida Registration number on the side of the boat,
contact Florida find the last legitimate person to register the boat
with that number.

That's what the GA DNR suggested, but the FL DMV won't tell me
anything about it. I asked them if they could at least tell me
whether it was stolen or not and they wouldn't even say that.

Working both ends, from the last legitimate owner and
the person you purchased the boat from, you should be able to get
something accomplished.

This is stupid. If you have the name of the registered (in FL) owner
and can contact them all you have to do is get them to apply for a
replacement of a lost title, then have them sign it over to you.

I doubt that there is any hanky panky going on at all. People are
just lazy when they sell boats and dont always go through the correct
procedure.

I bought a boat in FL and brought it back to TX then transferred the
title. We had some problems with paperwork lacking, but we worked it
out in FL. The interesting thing was that Texas, my home state,
screwed themselves out of a huge hunk of money. I wanted to buy the
boat then get a Texas title on it and then sail it back to Texas.
Texas was adamant that they had to have the boat in Texas before they
could register it. They didn't explain how I was to get it from FL to
TX without registration. If they had been willing to work with me
they would have gotten the $2,500 in sales tax from the sale. They
were not. So I registered it in FL, paid FL the sales tax, and sailed
it home and transferred the title to Texas for a piddling fee. Texas
could have had the $2500 sales tax if they had been more flexible.


The person you dealt with in the purchase could be guilty of dealing
with stolen merchandise.

I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it
right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale
that might help him if things eventually get ugly.

Sounds like the first bunch of fruitcakes didn't own the boat they sold
which would make it hot.
The guy that sold it to you didn't do it right. Just because he signed a
bill of sale doesn't make him or the transaction legit. H didn't legally own
the boat since he didn't have a FL title and guess what? Neither do you.
Paying for stolen goods does not make them yours. It makes you a criminal..
You should be looking out for your own ass, not his.