On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:52:53 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:


More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

On Oct 28, 2:26*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:52:53 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:

More than fair. *The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. *WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. *The need is to get the decision right. *Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather *
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. *"The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

Heh.. they are hardened fighters and terrorists, but some cold weather
shuts them down. Uh-huh.

Good thing we got a mini ice age on the way... that'll exterminate all
the terrorist!

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.

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says...

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.

Yeah, but in the mean time, can we at least defend ourselves?

On 10/29/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote:
In inet,
says...

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.

Yeah, but in the mean time, can we at least defend ourselves?


Morons like you are a bigger threat to this country than your typical
Afghani.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:11:40 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Morons like you are a bigger threat to this country than your typical
Afghani.

Osama is a Saudi. The typical Afghani wants us out, and for the
Talaban to butt out as well.

Casady

"Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.

Yeah, but in the mean time, can we at least defend ourselves?


From what do you get the impression that we aren't? Even if he decided to
increase troops today, it'll take months for any to get there.

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