On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and
balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's
golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't
they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of
today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his
Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under
the same conditions?

Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave
up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:36:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

Yes, it is a canard, as Bush's vacations were. With modern
communications, neither President is ever out of reach. Frankly,
whatever relieves the stress. Watch how a President ages before your
eyes. Bush showed the wear of eight years, and Obama is starting to show
some after only nine months. IMO, he can golf all he wants.

Yes and no. It becomes a political issue when one side makes enough
of a fuss about it to cause a President to react by not participating
in a "relaxing" activity. What's fair is fair - you make it a
political issue, then it becomes a political issue.

Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and
balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President
Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So
why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who
has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of
his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration
under the same conditions?


Where was Fox and Limbaugh during Bush's extended vacation after 9/11? Seems
to me they thought everything was just fine. You're making it out to be a
political issue with Obama, but it was ok for Bush. Sounds like a political
agenda to me.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:43:48 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:

Come on. Now it's the new, new canard.... too much golf. Bush was on
vacation for 1/3 of his term in office. That was ok with you? It's ok
with you for Obama to "just make a decision," rather than actually think
it through? Keep pounding away at the golf theme if you think that'll
help.

Yes, it is a canard, as Bush's vacations were. With modern
communications, neither President is ever out of reach. Frankly,
whatever relieves the stress. Watch how a President ages before your
eyes. Bush showed the wear of eight years, and Obama is starting to show
some after only nine months. IMO, he can golf all he wants.


I agree, but I'm wondering what was Bush's stress from? He was on vacation a
lot prior to 9/11. I can understand (I suppose) after, but before?

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On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less...
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

In article ff604fe8-7d01-4bdd-99ef-
, says...

On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

Bull****. He spent two and a half hours with "friendly" media two
Mondays ago, behind closed doors, only with invited media. He has
reportedly spend only about two hours with his own hand picked
general... That is a fact. I am getting sick of being called a liar when
the facts are so accessible. Just because you don't like them, doesn't
mean they aren't true. Don't be a Harry..

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less...
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.


The fact is Obermann, Maddow, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Lies, Daily
Garble, and dozens of other minority media outlets made a big stink when
on the rare occasion Bush did play golf but seem to have no problem when
Obama does, even though he does it much more. My point is the media
double standard, I am not attacking your man Obama here directly. You
keep talking about Hannity and Rush. I don't know anything about Rush,
but Hannity "always" has representatives for both sides of an issue
available, something MSNBC and the rest are afraid to do... You should
watch once in a while, just like I watch Maddow and the CNN crew.. Just
can't watch Obermann, can't hear him anyway over the wail of my gaydar
and the smug attitude..

"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ff604fe8-7d01-4bdd-99ef-
, says...

On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all
the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

Bull****. He spent two and a half hours with "friendly" media two
Mondays ago, behind closed doors, only with invited media. He has
reportedly spend only about two hours with his own hand picked
general... That is a fact. I am getting sick of being called a liar when
the facts are so accessible. Just because you don't like them, doesn't
mean they aren't true. Don't be a Harry..

And, previously, he spent some time at George Will's house with right-wing
pundits.

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care
less...
For starters...

Campaigning? Umm... the election was over last year.

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.


The fact is Obermann, Maddow, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Lies, Daily
Garble, and dozens of other minority media outlets made a big stink when
on the rare occasion Bush did play golf but seem to have no problem when
Obama does, even though he does it much more. My point is the media
double standard, I am not attacking your man Obama here directly. You
keep talking about Hannity and Rush. I don't know anything about Rush,
but Hannity "always" has representatives for both sides of an issue
available, something MSNBC and the rest are afraid to do... You should
watch once in a while, just like I watch Maddow and the CNN crew.. Just
can't watch Obermann, can't hear him anyway over the wail of my gaydar
and the smug attitude..

Hannity? That's who you're defending? Now that's funny.

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less...
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a
total of two hours.

From all appearances, you listen to them every day.

Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups.

And, your comment above is BS.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all
the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less...
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a
total of two hours.

From all appearances, you listen to them every day.

Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups.

And, your comment above is BS.


All you have to do is watch Olbermann and Maddow. They slam Obama all the
time. Hard to believe, but it's true.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Oct 28, 11:53*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less....
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a
total of two hours.

I wonder how it is then that you can parrot almost exactly what
they've said every single day?

From all appearances, you listen to them every day.

I listen to Hannity every evening on my drive home. I like listening
to the latest lies he's telling.

Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups.

Yes, I know, everything liberal is bad, everything conservative is
good.

And, your comment above is BS.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Cite?

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 28, 11:53*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less...
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a
total of two hours.

I wonder how it is then that you can parrot almost exactly what
they've said every single day?

Great minds think alike.

From all appearances, you listen to them every day.

I listen to Hannity every evening on my drive home. I like listening
to the latest lies he's telling.

That's more Hannity listening than I'll do in three months.

Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups.

Yes, I know, everything liberal is bad, everything conservative is
good.

You're learning.

And, your comment above is BS.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Cite?

Easy. http://tinyurl.com/cgufp3