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nom=de=plume October 29th 09 03:44 AM

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"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"

wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats
in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this,
after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....

Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not
conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.

Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is
ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during
the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.

I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.

No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.

And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently
regarding
how best to move forward.

Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his
clubs after the last golf outing.

Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.

They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady


According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.


What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...



And Bush was warned by the Clinton administration and WENT ON VACATION. What
a hero.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 29th 09 03:44 AM

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"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

Tosk wrote:
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack

wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in
New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after
all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not
conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is
ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during
the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently
regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean
his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.
They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.

What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...


A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle greased.


That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...



No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Jim October 29th 09 10:17 AM

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Tosk wrote:
In article , says...
Tosk wrote:
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.
They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.
What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...

A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle greased.


That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...


That would be contrary to the democratic philosophy of studying the
issues to death and hoping they just go away on their own.

Jim October 29th 09 10:37 AM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in
New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after
all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.

They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady


According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch.


That's why he's trying to make a good decision vs. some decision. I know
this upsets you. Sorry.

That's a 180 from his strategy on health care. He couldn't get a
healthcare plan done fast enough. Didn't matter what it contained. And
the big money giveaway. How good was that decision.
You really have your head up your ass, as do most of the libs here.

Jim October 29th 09 10:41 AM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk
wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats
in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this,
after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not
conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is
ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during
the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently
regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.
They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.

What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...



And Bush was warned by the Clinton administration and WENT ON VACATION. What
a hero.


Right! Lol Lol

Jim October 29th 09 10:44 AM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , says...
Tosk wrote:
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack

wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in
New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after
all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not
conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is
ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during
the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently
regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean
his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.
They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.
What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...
A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle greased.

That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...



No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.

Lol Lol Right baby. You're on a roll now. Got any more dumb crap to say?

thunder October 29th 09 11:15 AM

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.


Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.


Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.

BAR[_2_] October 29th 09 12:13 PM

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In article ,
says...
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.

What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...

A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle greased.


That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...



No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.


Somebody needs to tell Obama that the enemy is not us it is them, those
who want to see us destroyed.




BAR[_2_] October 29th 09 12:14 PM

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In article ,
says...
And Bush was warned by the Clinton administration and WENT ON VACATION. What
a hero.



Obama is hunting for terrorists one golf hole at a time.

Loogypicker[_2_] October 29th 09 12:54 PM

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On Oct 29, 8:14*am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

And Bush was warned by the Clinton administration and WENT ON VACATION. What
a hero.


Obama is hunting for terrorists one golf hole at a time.


Come on, I always thought that you were brighter than those that
instantly think that everything liberal is bad, everything
conservative is good. The thing about golf is dishonest. Bush didn't
care much for golf. If you take the VACATION time spent, Bush took
much more time off than Obama.

Loogypicker[_2_] October 29th 09 12:55 PM

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On Oct 28, 10:14*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...







On Oct 28, 11:49*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:


On Oct 28, 10:23*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"


wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59*am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote:


American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....


Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.


Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.


I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.


No double standard there. *That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.


And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding
how best to move forward.


Wow... a whole 25 minutes? *It took him longer than that to clean his
clubs after the last golf outing.


Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. *Stop making
excuses for him. *Obama is failing miserably at the job.


They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.


Casady


According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. *These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. *While he plays golf and... does nothing.


What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But according to John, if it happened on Bush's watch, it's all him!

Tosk October 29th 09 12:58 PM

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In article , says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , says...
Tosk wrote:
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack

wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in
New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after
all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not
conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is
ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during
the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently
regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean
his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.
They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.
What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...
A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle greased.
That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...



No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.

Lol Lol Right baby. You're on a roll now. Got any more dumb crap to say?


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Tosk October 29th 09 12:59 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.


Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.


Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.


Yeah, but in the mean time, can we at least defend ourselves?

BAR[_2_] October 29th 09 01:07 PM

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In article ,
says...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???


A decision is better than no decision.


Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than
one that isn't.


How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.


We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first. If
only....


Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.


So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right?


With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.



H the K[_4_] October 29th 09 01:10 PM

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On 10/29/09 8:58 AM, Tosk wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...



There's nothing funnier on rec.boats than tosk, aka justhate, aka scott
ingersoll, trying so hard to convince everyone else *he* is not the
group's ranking dimwit.

H the K[_4_] October 29th 09 01:11 PM

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On 10/29/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote:
In inet,
says...

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.


Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.


Yeah, but in the mean time, can we at least defend ourselves?



Morons like you are a bigger threat to this country than your typical
Afghani.

Jim October 29th 09 01:17 PM

8 more...
 
BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!
The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.
Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?

You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???
A decision is better than no decision.

Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than
one that isn't.


How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.


We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first. If
only....


Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.

So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right?


With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.


If you spent 20 years listening to Jeramiah Wright, you'd hate America too.

Richard Casady October 29th 09 03:06 PM

8 more...
 
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:11:40 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Morons like you are a bigger threat to this country than your typical
Afghani.


Osama is a Saudi. The typical Afghani wants us out, and for the
Talaban to butt out as well.

Casady

nom=de=plume October 29th 09 05:43 PM

8 more...
 
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter
weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???

A decision is better than no decision.


Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better
than
one that isn't.


How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.


We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like
not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we
had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first.
If
only....


Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.


So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed
right?


With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.


Do you actually believe yourself?

You left out being born in Kenya (or was it Australia?).

You are a right-wing nut!
--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 29th 09 05:45 PM

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"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.


Yeah, well, being you brought up Vietnam, there are several things we
should have learned then, that are applicable now. Propping up corrupt
governments doesn't work. Forcing our values on a population that
doesn't share them, is counterproductive. Perhaps, most important,
strictly military solutions are unsuccessful in a counterinsurgency. The
Soviets learned these in Afghanistan, but apparently "Bring 'em on" Bush
was a little slow to learn those lessons.

This country gave GWB seven years with Afghanistan on the back burner.
I'm willing to give Obama some months to sort his strategies out. With
the instability reaching into Pakistan, I want the right decision, not
the quick one.


Yeah, but in the mean time, can we at least defend ourselves?



From what do you get the impression that we aren't? Even if he decided to
increase troops today, it'll take months for any to get there.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 29th 09 05:46 PM

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"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Tosk wrote:
In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9
@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack

wrote:



On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk
wrote:
American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats
in
New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this,
after
all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their
legs....
Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not
conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.
Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin.
Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is
ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly
Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field"
during
the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.
I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone.
No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were
saying as soon as Bush took office.
And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently
regarding
how best to move forward.
Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean
his
clubs after the last golf outing.
Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making
excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job.
They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At
three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours.

Casady
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he
can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.
What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during
the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is
all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...
A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle
greased.
That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and
take
start making a stand...


No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.

Lol Lol Right baby. You're on a roll now. Got any more dumb crap to say?


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...



Thank you, thank you!!

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps October 29th 09 05:46 PM

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:12:47 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and
balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's
golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't
they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of
today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his
Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under
the same conditions?

Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave
up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html


Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism.

Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said.

What's fair is fair.


I'll say it again. Golf is a decadent sport and any Prez who's out
there all smilin' and jiving with his buddies while our soldiers are
dying can't get enough criticism.
Looks like Obama has had no reporter yet film him and ask him about
the guys getting blown away while he's on the links.
Why is that?
This damn "sport" should off-limits for any Prez.
Hell, even playing poker while drinking scotch looks better.
Or bowling with a beer on the scorecard.
Golf is just plain silly, and makes anybody look silly.
There, I said it. Just what I think.

--Vic


I think mountain biking and fishing look just as silly when put in
context of our fellow Americans getting killed.

Choose your poison.

H the K[_4_] October 29th 09 05:47 PM

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On 10/29/09 1:43 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
. ..
In ,
says...

wrote in message
. ..
In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter
weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???

A decision is better than no decision.

Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better
than
one that isn't.


How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.


We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like
not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we
had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first.
If
only....


Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.

So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed
right?


With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.


Do you actually believe yourself?

You left out being born in Kenya (or was it Australia?).

You are a right-wing nut!


Indeed he is.

nom=de=plume October 29th 09 05:47 PM

8 more...
 
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he
can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.

What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during
the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is
all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...

A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle
greased.

That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...



No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.


Somebody needs to tell Obama that the enemy is not us it is them, those
who want to see us destroyed.


Someone needs to tell you that continually claiming he's doing nothing is
making you look foolish, except among the 19% who self-identify as
Republicans I guess.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 29th 09 05:48 PM

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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
And Bush was warned by the Clinton administration and WENT ON VACATION.
What
a hero.



Obama is hunting for terrorists one golf hole at a time.



Are you hunting for an intelligent response? Keep hunting!

--
Nom=de=Plume



Loogypicker[_2_] October 29th 09 05:48 PM

8 more...
 
On Oct 29, 9:07*am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...







"BAR" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.


Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. *Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???


A decision is better than no decision.


Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than
one that isn't.


How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.

We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first.. If
only....


Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.


So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right?


With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hoooo BOY!!! Right out of Rush's playbook.....

Tosk October 29th 09 06:21 PM

8 more...
 
In article 76a7aed3-212c-477e-a236-
,
says...

On Oct 29, 9:07*am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...







"BAR" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!


The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.


Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. *Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???


A decision is better than no decision.


Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than
one that isn't.


How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.

We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first. If
only....


Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.


So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right?


With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hoooo BOY!!! Right out of Rush's playbook.....


Do you really listen to Rush that often, cause most here consider him an
entertainer like Jeff Dunham.. Maybe you are just trying to insult us, I
donno' but it really isn't working...

jps October 29th 09 06:57 PM

8 more...
 
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...



Thank you, thank you!!


You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.

jps October 29th 09 07:00 PM

8 more...
 
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:47:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he
can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.

What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during
the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is
all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...

A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle
greased.

That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take
start making a stand...


No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.


Somebody needs to tell Obama that the enemy is not us it is them, those
who want to see us destroyed.


Someone needs to tell you that continually claiming he's doing nothing is
making you look foolish, except among the 19% who self-identify as
Republicans I guess.


They're keeping faith and staying the course.

So what if the car went off the road 3 miles back?

nom=de=plume October 29th 09 07:16 PM

8 more...
 
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...



Thank you, thank you!!


You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.



De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 29th 09 07:17 PM

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"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:47:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
m...
In article ,
says...
According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he
can
no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on
BO's
watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing.

What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush
when
it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during
the
Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now
is
all
on Bush, it's that old double standard again...

A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle
greased.

That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and
take
start making a stand...


No. He's already done that by standing up to people like you.


Somebody needs to tell Obama that the enemy is not us it is them, those
who want to see us destroyed.


Someone needs to tell you that continually claiming he's doing nothing is
making you look foolish, except among the 19% who self-identify as
Republicans I guess.


They're keeping faith and staying the course.

So what if the car went off the road 3 miles back?



Near Dick Cheney's undisclosed location no doubt. lol

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 29th 09 08:15 PM

8 more...
 
"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 76a7aed3-212c-477e-a236-
,
says...

On Oct 29, 9:07 am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...







"BAR" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision,
but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right.
Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter
weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what
better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?

You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a
rushed
decision???

A decision is better than no decision.

Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better
than
one that isn't.

How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.

We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions,
like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only
we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just
those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country
first. If
only....

Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself
in
the best political light.

So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to
be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed
right?

With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the
USA
thrive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hoooo BOY!!! Right out of Rush's playbook.....


Do you really listen to Rush that often, cause most here consider him an
entertainer like Jeff Dunham.. Maybe you are just trying to insult us, I
donno' but it really isn't working...



Maybe it was a complement attempt.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Jim October 29th 09 08:44 PM

8 more...
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Thank you, thank you!!

You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.



De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

If you haven't guessed by now, JpS
is..............................well.............. ................um................................ ...........gay
Have him send you a snapshot. Let us know if you think he's hot.

Jim October 29th 09 08:50 PM

8 more...
 
Tosk wrote:
In article 76a7aed3-212c-477e-a236-
,
says...
On Oct 29, 9:07 am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...







"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!
The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.
Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?
You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???
A decision is better than no decision.
Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than
one that isn't.
How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.

We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first. If
only....
Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.
So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right?
With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
thrive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hoooo BOY!!! Right out of Rush's playbook.....


Do you really listen to Rush that often, cause most here consider him an
entertainer like Jeff Dunham.. Maybe you are just trying to insult us, I
donno' but it really isn't working...


Jeff Dunham is really cool. When Harry posts I can't help getting a
mental picture of his character, Walter. I'm working on an image for
plume too. Olive Oyl, Tinkerbell, or Miss Piggy? What do you think?

Tosk October 29th 09 09:50 PM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Thank you, thank you!!
You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.



De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

If you haven't guessed by now, JpS
is..............................well.............. ................um................................ ...........gay
Have him send you a snapshot. Let us know if you think he's hot.


He won't send a snapshot. These guys are so embarrassed by the way they
act here, they are scared to death somebody might identify them and
their friends will find out what liars and idiots they are...

Tosk October 29th 09 09:50 PM

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Tosk wrote:
In article 76a7aed3-212c-477e-a236-
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On Oct 29, 9:07 am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
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"BAR" wrote in message
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"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!
The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.
Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?
You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???
A decision is better than no decision.
Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than
one that isn't.
How many men and women will have to die for Obama to make his well-
thought through decision?

Have you ever heard of paralysis through analysis? You are seeing it in
action with Obama.

We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not
focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had
some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those
issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first. If
only....
Every decision Obama makes is a political decision. He is currently
trying to figure out how to keep the ultra left wing of the Democrat
party from rising up against him and at the same time keep the right
wing of the Democrat party from doing the same thing.

How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in
the best political light.
So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a
political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right?
With Obama it will always be political.

Ask him where his US flag pin was? Why didn't he put his hand over his
heart during the pledge of allegiance? Obama doesn't want to see the USA
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Hoooo BOY!!! Right out of Rush's playbook.....


Do you really listen to Rush that often, cause most here consider him an
entertainer like Jeff Dunham.. Maybe you are just trying to insult us, I
donno' but it really isn't working...


Jeff Dunham is really cool. When Harry posts I can't help getting a
mental picture of his character, Walter. I'm working on an image for
plume too. Olive Oyl, Tinkerbell, or Miss Piggy? What do you think?


Lady Ga ga...

H the K[_4_] October 29th 09 10:16 PM

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On 10/29/09 5:50 PM, Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Thank you, thank you!!
You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.


De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

If you haven't guessed by now, JpS
is..............................well.............. ................um................................ ...........gay
Have him send you a snapshot. Let us know if you think he's hot.


He won't send a snapshot. These guys are so embarrassed by the way they
act here, they are scared to death somebody might identify them and
their friends will find out what liars and idiots they are...


I'd be embarrassed if I looked like Tosky:

http://tinyurl.com/mrolrg

jps October 29th 09 11:48 PM

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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:16:49 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/29/09 5:50 PM, Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Thank you, thank you!!
You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.


De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

If you haven't guessed by now, JpS
is..............................well.............. ................um................................ ...........gay
Have him send you a snapshot. Let us know if you think he's hot.


He won't send a snapshot. These guys are so embarrassed by the way they
act here, they are scared to death somebody might identify them and
their friends will find out what liars and idiots they are...


I'd be embarrassed if I looked like Tosky:

http://tinyurl.com/mrolrg


That's got to be his dad or his uncle. He doesn't really look like
that does he? Yikes.

H the K[_4_] October 30th 09 12:34 AM

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On 10/29/09 7:48 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:16:49 -0400, H the
wrote:

On 10/29/09 5:50 PM, Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Thank you, thank you!!
You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.


De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

If you haven't guessed by now, JpS
is..............................well.............. ................um................................ ...........gay
Have him send you a snapshot. Let us know if you think he's hot.

He won't send a snapshot. These guys are so embarrassed by the way they
act here, they are scared to death somebody might identify them and
their friends will find out what liars and idiots they are...


I'd be embarrassed if I looked like Tosky:

http://tinyurl.com/mrolrg


That's got to be his dad or his uncle. He doesn't really look like
that does he? Yikes.



It's him...formidable, eh? :)


jps October 30th 09 03:04 AM

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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:34:53 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/29/09 7:48 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:16:49 -0400, H the
wrote:

On 10/29/09 5:50 PM, Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:46:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Now you are starting to understand why I plonked this one too. Useless
and I cut down the dimwit posts by about 50% right there. She posts
almost as much as our Harry, and with about as much content.. ZERO...

Thank you, thank you!!
You obviously made him think. Cannot abide.

I commend your patience but I think you were trying to de-gay him.
Mother nature made him that way.


De-gay? heh I had a friend who tried to do that with a really hot gay guy.
It didn't work.

If you haven't guessed by now, JpS
is..............................well.............. ................um................................ ...........gay
Have him send you a snapshot. Let us know if you think he's hot.

He won't send a snapshot. These guys are so embarrassed by the way they
act here, they are scared to death somebody might identify them and
their friends will find out what liars and idiots they are...

I'd be embarrassed if I looked like Tosky:

http://tinyurl.com/mrolrg


That's got to be his dad or his uncle. He doesn't really look like
that does he? Yikes.



It's him...formidable, eh? :)


Looks like a double-wide brat with twigs for arms.


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