|
8 more...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Honest, Loogy, in your quest for Obama sainthood, your lack of concern for the soldiers being killed while Obama plays makes you sound a little foolish. |
8 more...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote: On Oct 28, 9:03*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Oct 28, 8:59*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date. I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. And yes, he IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding how best to move forward. You've read my 'claim' several times. Now you lie about it. That's not what I've said. Apparently you still don't understand, or you do understand but can't face it. |
8 more...
"thunder" wrote in message
t... On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:43:48 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote: Come on. Now it's the new, new canard.... too much golf. Bush was on vacation for 1/3 of his term in office. That was ok with you? It's ok with you for Obama to "just make a decision," rather than actually think it through? Keep pounding away at the golf theme if you think that'll help. Yes, it is a canard, as Bush's vacations were. With modern communications, neither President is ever out of reach. Frankly, whatever relieves the stress. Watch how a President ages before your eyes. Bush showed the wear of eight years, and Obama is starting to show some after only nine months. IMO, he can golf all he wants. I agree, but I'm wondering what was Bush's stress from? He was on vacation a lot prior to 9/11. I can understand (I suppose) after, but before? -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:36:02 -0500, thunder wrote: Yes, it is a canard, as Bush's vacations were. With modern communications, neither President is ever out of reach. Frankly, whatever relieves the stress. Watch how a President ages before your eyes. Bush showed the wear of eight years, and Obama is starting to show some after only nine months. IMO, he can golf all he wants. Yes and no. It becomes a political issue when one side makes enough of a fuss about it to cause a President to react by not participating in a "relaxing" activity. What's fair is fair - you make it a political issue, then it becomes a political issue. Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Where was Fox and Limbaugh during Bush's extended vacation after 9/11? Seems to me they thought everything was just fine. You're making it out to be a political issue with Obama, but it was ok for Bush. Sounds like a political agenda to me. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"thunder" wrote in message
t... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html It's totally fair. That guy was an idiot (or so I'm told). -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 11:52*am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. *The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. *WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. *The need is to get the decision right. *Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather * in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? |
8 more...
"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , says... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism. Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said. What's fair is fair. Obama is asking others to sacrifice for the good of the collective but, Obama is not willing to make any type of sacrifice himself. Except for trying to fix the major problems of the economy and two wars created by his predecessor... maybe if the right stopped trying to get his birth certificate (is it from Kenya or Australia?) and started trying to help... no, that's too much to ask from the right. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Oct 28, 10:40 am, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/05/13/AR200... More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! Yeah, I suppose when you have a life/death decision to make involving 10s of 1000s of lives, you make a decision without much thought. Oh wait, your name isn't Bush. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"John H." wrote in message
... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html I think it's fair to compare Obama with *any* idiot. It is, because he's not one and it makes the idiot more obvious. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"Tosk" wrote in message
... In article ff604fe8-7d01-4bdd-99ef- , says... On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?" No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors with friendly media than with his generals in the field... That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush? Bull****. He spent two and a half hours with "friendly" media two Mondays ago, behind closed doors, only with invited media. He has reportedly spend only about two hours with his own hand picked general... That is a fact. I am getting sick of being called a liar when the facts are so accessible. Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean they aren't true. Don't be a Harry.. And, previously, he spent some time at George Will's house with right-wing pundits. More time campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less... For starters... Campaigning? Umm... the election was over last year. And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now than Obama. The fact is Obermann, Maddow, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Lies, Daily Garble, and dozens of other minority media outlets made a big stink when on the rare occasion Bush did play golf but seem to have no problem when Obama does, even though he does it much more. My point is the media double standard, I am not attacking your man Obama here directly. You keep talking about Hannity and Rush. I don't know anything about Rush, but Hannity "always" has representatives for both sides of an issue available, something MSNBC and the rest are afraid to do... You should watch once in a while, just like I watch Maddow and the CNN crew.. Just can't watch Obermann, can't hear him anyway over the wail of my gaydar and the smug attitude.. Hannity? That's who you're defending? Now that's funny. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"John H." wrote in message
... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?" No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors with friendly media than with his generals in the field... That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush? More time campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less... For starters... And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now than Obama. Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a total of two hours. From all appearances, you listen to them every day. Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups. And, your comment above is BS. All you have to do is watch Olbermann and Maddow. They slam Obama all the time. Hard to believe, but it's true. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message t... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html It's totally fair. That guy was an idiot (or so I'm told). OR SO YOU'RE TOLD. I knew you were a sock puppet. Thanks for admitting it. |
8 more...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:36:52 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2008/05/13/ AR2008051302783.html Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism. Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said. What's fair is fair. Well, to be fair then, I can't find anyone "making a big deal" of Bush's golfing. I do remember the press making a big deal about Bush playing guitar while New Orleans flooded. It also seems a little silly to be comparing golf outings of someone who does golf, with someone who gave it up, for whatever reason. How about brush clearing? I'm sure Bush has spent much more time clearing brush than Obama has. How about basketball games in the middle of the day? "Date" nights. The problem is that the liberal media, and most liberals, can't live by their own rules. As Saul Alinsky said: "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.: Fair is fair. :) |
8 more...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:52:53 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's TET". Seem like I heard that one before - twice. |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 11:53*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?" No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors with friendly media than with his generals in the field... That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush? More time campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less.... For starters... And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now than Obama. Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a total of two hours. I wonder how it is then that you can parrot almost exactly what they've said every single day? From all appearances, you listen to them every day. I listen to Hannity every evening on my drive home. I like listening to the latest lies he's telling. Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups. Yes, I know, everything liberal is bad, everything conservative is good. And, your comment above is BS.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cite? |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 11:57*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 28, 9:03*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Oct 28, 8:59*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs..... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date. I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. And yes, he IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding how best to move forward. You've read my 'claim' several times. Now you lie about it. That's not what I've said. Apparently you still don't understand, or you do understand but can't face it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, you know good and well that you've stated here several times that it's all in Obama's hands now, we can't blame anything on Bush. It's really really ignorant of someone to bury their head in the sand so far that they can't say anything good about a liberal or anything bad about a conservative. |
8 more...
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." |
8 more...
"H the K" wrote in message
m... On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of reason in the party. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism. Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said. What's fair is fair. I'll say it again. Golf is a decadent sport and any Prez who's out there all smilin' and jiving with his buddies while our soldiers are dying can't get enough criticism. Looks like Obama has had no reporter yet film him and ask him about the guys getting blown away while he's on the links. Why is that? This damn "sport" should off-limits for any Prez. Hell, even playing poker while drinking scotch looks better. Or bowling with a beer on the scorecard. Golf is just plain silly, and makes anybody look silly. There, I said it. Just what I think. --Vic |
8 more...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism. Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said. What's fair is fair. I'll say it again. Golf is a decadent sport and any Prez who's out there all smilin' and jiving with his buddies while our soldiers are dying can't get enough criticism. Looks like Obama has had no reporter yet film him and ask him about the guys getting blown away while he's on the links. Why is that? This damn "sport" should off-limits for any Prez. Hell, even playing poker while drinking scotch looks better. Or bowling with a beer on the scorecard. Golf is just plain silly, and makes anybody look silly. There, I said it. Just what I think. --Vic If that's the worst thing a president does.... -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
In article ,
says... "H the K" wrote in message m... On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of reason in the party. Newt has turned into an appeaser. |
8 more...
On 10/28/09 7:16 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... "H the wrote in message m... On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of reason in the party. Newt has turned into an appeaser. As stated, right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 7:16*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , says... "H the K" wrote in message om... On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: *wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, *wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. *Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of reason in the party. Newt has turned into an appeaser. As for myself, I want less casualties brought about by a decision by the potus. That doesn't seem to be something that BO can accomplish... too busy playing golf and campaigning. |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 2:26*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:52:53 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. *The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. *WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. *The need is to get the decision right. *Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather * in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. *"The Vietcong won't attack - it's TET". Seem like I heard that one before - twice. Heh.. they are hardened fighters and terrorists, but some cold weather shuts them down. Uh-huh. Good thing we got a mini ice age on the way... that'll exterminate all the terrorist! |
8 more...
"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , says... "H the K" wrote in message m... On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of reason in the party. Newt has turned into an appeaser. I sincerely hope the Republican party can figure out where they should go. If it's more toward a slightly right of center position, it'll survive. If it continues toward the extreme right, it will end up in an unrecoverable minority position. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Oct 28, 7:16 pm, BAR wrote: In article , says... "H the K" wrote in message om... On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america." All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of reason in the party. Newt has turned into an appeaser. As for myself, I want less casualties brought about by a decision by the potus. That doesn't seem to be something that BO can accomplish... too busy playing golf and campaigning. I think you mean fewer causualties. We all want that. I take that on faith. As to the rest, it sounds like a right-wing rant. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 2:20*pm, Jim wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote: "thunder" wrote in message et... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. *However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/05/13/AR200.... It's totally fair. That guy was an idiot (or so I'm told). OR SO YOU'RE TOLD. I knew you were a sock puppet. Thanks for admitting it.. That's unfair to sock puppets everywhere. This one is devoid of any content. |
8 more...
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Oct 28, 2:20 pm, Jim wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: "thunder" wrote in message et... On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/05/13/AR200... It's totally fair. That guy was an idiot (or so I'm told). OR SO YOU'RE TOLD. I knew you were a sock puppet. Thanks for admitting it. That's unfair to sock puppets everywhere. This one is devoid of any content. If you're talking about yourself, I disagree. -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 6:12*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. *However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/05/13/AR200.... Yes I do. *He gave it up direcly because of the criticism. Call it what you will. *I don't care one way or the other as I said. What's fair is fair. I'll say it again. *Golf is a decadent sport and any Prez who's out there all smilin' and jiving with his buddies while our soldiers are dying can't get enough criticism. Looks like Obama has had no reporter yet film him and ask him about the guys getting blown away while he's on the links. Why is that? This damn "sport" should off-limits for any Prez. Hell, even playing poker while drinking scotch looks better. Or bowling with a beer on the scorecard. Golf is just plain silly, and makes anybody look silly. There, I said it. *Just what I think. --Vic Playing golf isn't bad. Playing golf while US soldiers die, and refusing to decide to either support them or pull out while more soldiers die is... criminal. |
8 more...
On 10/28/09 8:00 PM, Jack wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:12 pm, Vic wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under the same conditions? Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/05/13/AR200... Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism. Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said. What's fair is fair. I'll say it again. Golf is a decadent sport and any Prez who's out there all smilin' and jiving with his buddies while our soldiers are dying can't get enough criticism. Looks like Obama has had no reporter yet film him and ask him about the guys getting blown away while he's on the links. Why is that? This damn "sport" should off-limits for any Prez. Hell, even playing poker while drinking scotch looks better. Or bowling with a beer on the scorecard. Golf is just plain silly, and makes anybody look silly. There, I said it. Just what I think. --Vic Playing golf isn't bad. Playing golf while US soldiers die, and refusing to decide to either support them or pull out while more soldiers die is... criminal. Obama isn't "refusing to decide," **** for brains. He's in the process of deciding. I agree this is a different process than the last POTUS used. Bush did what he was told. |
8 more...
In article ,
says... "Jack" wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? A decision is better than no decision. How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in the best political light. |
8 more...
"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , says... "Jack" wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote: More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?! The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better time to hit them than when they are inactive? You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed decision??? A decision is better than no decision. Correct. And, a well-thought through decision is significantly better than one that isn't. We've got plenty of recent experience with ill-conceived decisions, like not focusing on Afganistan and invading Iraq for no good reason. If only we had some non-political decisions from the Bush administration on just those issues (not to mention the countless others) that put the country first. If only.... How many more will die before Obama figures out how to put himself in the best political light. So, in your view no matter what Obama decides, it's purely going to be a political decision, thus he's unpatriotic. That's where you're headed right? -- Nom=de=Plume |
8 more...
On Oct 28, 11:49*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack wrote: On Oct 28, 10:23*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 28, 9:03*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Oct 28, 8:59*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs..... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date. I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. No double standard there. *That's exactly what the liberals were saying as soon as Bush took office. And yes, he IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding how best to move forward. Wow... a whole 25 minutes? *It took him longer than that to clean his clubs after the last golf outing. Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. *Stop making excuses for him. *Obama is failing miserably at the job. They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours. Casady According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing. |
8 more...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote: On Oct 28, 10:23*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 28, 9:03*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Oct 28, 8:59*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date. I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were saying as soon as Bush took office. And yes, he IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding how best to move forward. Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his clubs after the last golf outing. Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job. They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours. CORRECTION Make that 200. I can't imagine where the other figure came from. A month's worth at 50 hours a week. Casady |
8 more...
|
8 more...
|
8 more...
In article , says...
Tosk wrote: In article 2daf2bfb-bfb9-4b9f-a9a9-1150fbbfb1f9 @o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack wrote: On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date. I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were saying as soon as Bush took office. And yes, he IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding how best to move forward. Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his clubs after the last golf outing. Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job. They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours. Casady According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's watch. While he plays golf and... does nothing. What gets me is the 3000 killed on 911 were blamed only on Bush when it's obvious most of the planning and execution was started during the Clinton years. Now the Dems insist that everything happening now is all on Bush, it's that old double standard again... A lot of **** slipped by ol Bill while he was getting his axle greased. That's not my point. My point is it's time for Obama to man up and take start making a stand... |
8 more...
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Oct 28, 11:49 am, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack wrote: On Oct 28, 10:23 am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 28, 9:03 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Oct 28, 8:59 am, Loogypicker wrote: On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Tosk wrote: American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.... Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative, you're beginning to sound foolish. Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date. I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. No double standard there. That's exactly what the liberals were saying as soon as Bush took office. And yes, he IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding how best to move forward. Wow... a whole 25 minutes? It took him longer than that to clean his clubs after the last golf outing. Surely those 8 lives are worth more than 25 minutes. Stop making excuses for him. Obama is failing miserably at the job. They are no better or worse than the other 4000+ who have died. At three minutes each it would come to about 1700 hours. Casady According to the libs, those others died on Bush's watch, but he can no longer do anything about it. These new ones are dieing on BO's watch. That's why he's trying to make a good decision vs. some decision. I know this upsets you. Sorry. -- Nom=de=Plume |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:08 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com