H the K wrote:
On 10/24/09 10:35 PM, elder wrote:
H the K wrote:
October 25, 2009
Small Business Faces Sharp Rise in Costs of Health Care
By REED ABELSON
NY Times

As Congress nears votes on legislation that would overhaul the health
care system, many small businesses say they are facing the steepest
rise in insurance premiums they have seen in recent years.

Insurance brokers and benefits consultants say their small business
clients are seeing premiums go up an average of about 15 percent for
the coming year ? double the rate of last year?s increases. That would
mean an annual premium that was $4,500 per employee in 2008 and $4,800
this year would rise to $5,500 in 2010.

The higher premiums at least partly reflect the inexorable rise of
medical costs, which is forcing Medicare to raise premiums, too.
Health insurance bills are also rising for big employers, but because
they have more negotiating clout, their increases are generally not as
steep.

Higher medical costs aside, some experts say they think the insurance
industry, under pressure from Wall Street, is raising premiums to get
ahead of any legislative changes that might reduce their profits.

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Yeah, like we really truly need for-profit health insurers who rape
all of us repeatedly.

A relative works for a big retailer. Insurance cost a lot. The coverage
has a huge deductible and co payments. Next year it goes up in price
again and deductibles and co payments are even higher. Still paying on
share of cost that insurance didn't cover from treatment in early part
of year. They cut hours. Next year it will take the equivalent of 2
months pay to cover the deductible and co payments.
Another works for national chain. They cut their hours several times
this past 2 years. When their hours go below 70 in two weeks they lose
their coverage. Medical bills take half of the pay. Everybody get sick.
Now they must sacrifice food etc and forget a future due high cost of
insurance and small benefits to help fill the coffers of the super rich
that now own America.


Bingo. Meanwhile, the health insurers are gouging out 25%-40% profits.
Bendover a little further, please.


Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. Duck" wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance

You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.

On 10/25/09 6:35 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance

You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.


I saw the AP piece and it gave me a good laugh. Considering all the
"adjustments" that result in "net income,"I'm astonished anyone believes
net income is really representative of anything. Well, anyone but Tom.

H the K wrote:
On 10/25/09 6:35 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance


You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.


I saw the AP piece and it gave me a good laugh. Considering all the
"adjustments" that result in "net income,"I'm astonished anyone believes
net income is really representative of anything. Well, anyone but Tom.

Tell us what you believe in WAFA. That should be good for a laugh

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:24:25 -0400, Jim wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/25/09 6:35 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance


You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.


I saw the AP piece and it gave me a good laugh. Considering all the
"adjustments" that result in "net income,"I'm astonished anyone believes
net income is really representative of anything. Well, anyone but Tom.

Tell us what you believe in WAFA. That should be good for a laugh

Obviously not mathematics and/or arithmetic, statistics or advanced
economic theory.

Seriously, you should feel sorry for him. It's all that force fed
Union training he's had to endure.

Union training is like being a detainee in Gitmo - only different.

On 10/25/09 10:24 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:24:25 -0400, wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/25/09 6:35 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance


You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.


I saw the AP piece and it gave me a good laugh. Considering all the
"adjustments" that result in "net income,"I'm astonished anyone believes
net income is really representative of anything. Well, anyone but Tom.

Tell us what you believe in WAFA. That should be good for a laugh

Obviously not mathematics and/or arithmetic, statistics or advanced
economic theory.

Seriously, you should feel sorry for him. It's all that force fed
Union training he's had to endure.

Union training is like being a detainee in Gitmo - only different.



Ahhhh...Tom's new meds are upsetting him.

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:35:32 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. Duck" wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance

You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.

If you stayed in your basement and made up stories, you'd live a long
life also. But, you'd not have near as much fun as you have now, nor
the relationship with your kids that you enjoy.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:01:26 -0400, "D. Duck" wrote:

Could you claify, are those net or gross profits?

As usual, our resident Moonbat has his facts wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091025/...alth_insurance

You know, as wrong as he is on almost everything, it's a wonder he's
managed to live as long as he has.

Well, most likely the ankle bracelet keeps him safe in his cellar...