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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:28:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help
special-needs
persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any
speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist
persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other
side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a
question
I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any
reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager
that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager
that
my income stream is less than yours.)

Good for you!!!

Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation?

Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you
suppose
are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight
of
a six pack or two.

How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for
the
unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our
society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya?
Let's see the love, dude!

Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards
the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real
answers yet.

So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in
mine?

This is how it normally goes with you.

I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild
a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that
your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative
of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are
a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of
radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the
more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy.

I'm sure your family understands you.

"toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend
that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have
problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if
you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic
and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as
short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs."

I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space
trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet
(apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence).

EM

It's more of a philosophical work, em. I haven't read much of C.S.
Lewis fiction (one Narnia novel and "The Screwtape Letters," an
epistolary). I've read more of his religious and philosophical works,
the most difficult to negotiate being "The Abolition of Man," and the
most poignant being, imo, "The Problem of Pain." The man was an
estimable apologist. And I may be being a bit brutal in this opinion;
but, I doubt that either JPS or H the K possess the prowess or acumen
to fully absorb it, considering their respectively unremarkable
intellectual demonstrations in this NG. That's why the most you'll
see from either in a criticism of his work is a "pithy" blurb.

I had wanted to add, too, Em, that "The Problem of Pain" is a bit of
an exercise in theodicy. It's worth a read, even for those that don't
subscribe to any faith in particular.

Sometimes, I don't mind a pithy response.

Actually, I don't either

. It's just that some comments feign
'pith' when there is little there to show for it.

I can understand God's goodness in the face of many things (all things I
suppose), but I don't subscribe to the notion of evil (this puts me at odds
with lots of religious people of course). I guess I've struggled with this
for a long while, but I've concluded that there doesn't have to be the
duality of good and evil for good to exist. Bad certainly exists, but I
don't believe in evil. Even bad people can be do good in select
circumstances. Certainly, the reverse is true.

At least you've invested some thought in the issue. That's more than
many others do. I think that when the discussion comes up, the terms
need to be clearly defined. It can be asserted that 'good' has no
meaning if there isn't 'evil.' The one is defined in some part by the
other. I wish I had finished G. E. Moore's "Principia Ethica." I had
started it last winter, and I put it down in the middle of his
defining "good." Maybe I'll be able to finish it when I retire, if I
ever get that far :)

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