On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:50:35 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:51:29 -0400, Tosk wrote:


After all, how can a for profit org compete with a public
funded not for profit?

Huh? I thought "privatization" was the cost cutting mantra of the
Right. You know, how a lean mean corporation was more efficient than a
bloated government agency. So, does this mean that if we eliminate
private health insurance companies, and go with a single payer public
option, our health cost would go down? Damn, you're turning into a
Liberal.

No, it means that a 'for profit' corporation couldn't compete with a
government subsidized, taxpayer supported public option. By taxing
individuals enough, the government can cut the 'cost' of the public
option to a fraction of the 'for profit' corporation's costs.

Denying that would be intentionally burying one's head in the sand.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:50:35 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:51:29 -0400, Tosk wrote:


After all, how can a for profit org compete with a public
funded not for profit?

Huh? I thought "privatization" was the cost cutting mantra of the
Right. You know, how a lean mean corporation was more efficient than a
bloated government agency. So, does this mean that if we eliminate
private health insurance companies, and go with a single payer public
option, our health cost would go down? Damn, you're turning into a
Liberal.

No, it means that a 'for profit' corporation couldn't compete with a
government subsidized, taxpayer supported public option. By taxing
individuals enough, the government can cut the 'cost' of the public
option to a fraction of the 'for profit' corporation's costs.

Denying that would be intentionally burying one's head in the sand.


Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and have
driven the ins. companies into the ground. I guess NASA shouldn't allow
private companies to get involved in future missions.

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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:36:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:50:35 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:51:29 -0400, Tosk wrote:


After all, how can a for profit org compete with a public
funded not for profit?

Huh? I thought "privatization" was the cost cutting mantra of the
Right. You know, how a lean mean corporation was more efficient than a
bloated government agency. So, does this mean that if we eliminate
private health insurance companies, and go with a single payer public
option, our health cost would go down? Damn, you're turning into a
Liberal.

No, it means that a 'for profit' corporation couldn't compete with a
government subsidized, taxpayer supported public option. By taxing
individuals enough, the government can cut the 'cost' of the public
option to a fraction of the 'for profit' corporation's costs.

Denying that would be intentionally burying one's head in the sand.


Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and have
driven the ins. companies into the ground. I guess NASA shouldn't allow
private companies to get involved in future missions.

lol

nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and have
driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.

"Jim" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and
have driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.


I believe that's Congress' responsibility. It's not like it's an unknown or
unsolvable problem.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:58:40 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and have
driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.

Isn't it strange how the VA has improved so dramatically from when
Bush was president. Then, the VA medical system was an example of how
inefficient Bush was.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:58:40 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and
have
driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.

Isn't it strange how the VA has improved so dramatically from when
Bush was president. Then, the VA medical system was an example of how
inefficient Bush was.


?? Vets actually have a guy in charge of the VA who cares about them. Did
you miss that news?

Eric Shinseki - He was fired by Bush for being honest.

http://www.va.gov/

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Nom=de=Plume

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:10:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:58:40 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and
have
driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.

Isn't it strange how the VA has improved so dramatically from when
Bush was president. Then, the VA medical system was an example of how
inefficient Bush was.


?? Vets actually have a guy in charge of the VA who cares about them. Did
you miss that news?

Eric Shinseki - He was fired by Bush for being honest.

http://www.va.gov/

Shinseki resigned. He realized he was beating his head against a brick
wall (named Rumsfeld). lol lol

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:10:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:58:40 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and
have
driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.

Isn't it strange how the VA has improved so dramatically from when
Bush was president. Then, the VA medical system was an example of how
inefficient Bush was.


?? Vets actually have a guy in charge of the VA who cares about them. Did
you miss that news?

Eric Shinseki - He was fired by Bush for being honest.

http://www.va.gov/

Shinseki resigned. He realized he was beating his head against a brick
wall (named Rumsfeld). lol lol


He was fired. He disagreed with Rumsfeld and was forced out.

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Nom=de=Plume

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:58:40 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:

Bummer about competition. Medicare and the VA systems are failures and
have
driven the ins. companies into the ground.

Obama just needs to pump lots of money into those systems and everything
will be fine.

Isn't it strange how the VA has improved so dramatically from when
Bush was president. Then, the VA medical system was an example of how
inefficient Bush was.


?? Vets actually have a guy in charge of the VA who cares about them. Did
you miss that news?

ROTFLMAO... But at the same time won't support the boys in the field..
LOL. Of course he did have more time to spend with "co-operative"
propagandists last week in the White House, more time than he has spent
with the commanders in the field... This is just funny...


Eric Shinseki - He was fired by Bush for being honest.

http://www.va.gov/