On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:38:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.

This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?


Possibly, unless the local gov't has/gets some credibility and takes action.
Who used the word "crusade" about fighting over there? I don't think it was
Obama.

I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used
in this context.

'Bama said this was a war of necessity. I would think that means we
should win it, not cut and run like we did in Vietnam. If we do that,
then you liberals will say, "We lost".

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.

Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:58 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.

Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.

Hence the close association with Eric Prince. There was lots done in
the name of Jesus. That's how Bush got Blair on his side.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:58 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.

Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.

Hence the close association with Eric Prince. There was lots done in
the name of Jesus. That's how Bush got Blair on his side.


Blackwater was by far the worst book I've read (worst in the sense of
identifying horrors) since Fiasco.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:58 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.

Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.

Sorry. I thought the post was referring to Afghanistan. I do remember
the above, and I do find it applicable - to the worldwide war on
terrorism. Of course, we are no longer at war with terrorists because
they don't exist.

It's hard to keep up.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:58 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.

Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.

Sorry. I thought the post was referring to Afghanistan. I do remember
the above, and I do find it applicable - to the worldwide war on
terrorism. Of course, we are no longer at war with terrorists because
they don't exist.

It's hard to keep up.


No doubt about that... keep trying. It's good for the soul.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:38:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.

This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?


Possibly, unless the local gov't has/gets some credibility and takes
action.
Who used the word "crusade" about fighting over there? I don't think it
was
Obama.

I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used
in this context.

George W. Bush did.

'Bama said this was a war of necessity. I would think that means we
should win it, not cut and run like we did in Vietnam. If we do that,
then you liberals will say, "We lost".

And, please show how or when we've "cut and run" if you're able. Keep trying
the attack "you liberals" if you think that'll give your argument merit.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:39:36 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:28:55 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used
in this context.

George W. Bush did.


Pope Urban II was the first to say it in 1095.

Man, those were the days, weren't they?

--Vic