On 10/19/09 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K
wrote:

You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


I also spend some time taking care of my "stuff," an activity that falls
into the category of preventive maintenance.



--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

On Oct 19, 12:37*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 12:32 PM, Frogwatch wrote:





On Oct 19, 11:42 am, H *wrote:
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:

On Oct 19, 2:03 am, * *wrote:
* *wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, * *wrote:

* *wrote in message

...

At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.

Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !

If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.

You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill- Hide quoted text -

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Bull****. If you do stuff, you'll certainly have things go wrong.
You're afraid to go camping, afraid of anything fast, you're too fat
to fit into a cave, and too afraid of doing anything other than hiding
behind your desk being a fat, nasty prick.

On Oct 19, 1:03*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


Any bets of the type of reply you'll get? 8)

On Oct 19, 1:46*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

Any bets of the type of reply you'll get? *8)

Hk doesn't bother me. He's just a grumpy old guy with nothing to do.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:46:46 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind.

What's odd about the install?
Should be pretty straightforward.
You got a secret you're not letting out?

--Vic

On Oct 19, 1:55*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:46:46 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind.

What's odd about the install?
Should be pretty straightforward.
You got a secret you're not letting out?

--Vic

Nothing odd really. HArry was saying I had all these problems with
boats and this was the last thing I remember posting about the Tolman
he could be referring to. Going to use 10 guage wire and a dedicated
deep cycle battery for it. It will have its own housing at the
transom with smooth walled hose going up to a straight thru-hull for
max flow. Roughly a 3' rise. I figure it'll get rid of water fast.

In article ,
says...

On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


Any bets of the type of reply you'll get? 8)

If you plonk the silly bitch, you won't get any

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.

Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !

If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


If you have a tether, why do you need a lifejacket? Seems like the tether
would keep you with the boat. Well, I guess if it sinks, then you would.

Do you have a satelite phone? I think I'd want one of those if I was out of
cell service.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Oct 19, 3:12*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Mike" wrote in message

....
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

....

At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.

Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !

If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume
Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.

If you have a tether, why do you need a lifejacket? Seems like the tether
would keep you with the boat. Well, I guess if it sinks, then you would.

Do you have a satelite phone? I think I'd want one of those if I was out of
cell service.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cell phone service on the coast here is so spotty as to be useless or
at least not reliable. Later in the year when I sail across the Gulf
of Mexico, I'll rent a sat phone.
The auto-inflate jacket has a built in harness and is comfy to wear.