On Oct 19, 3:18*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 3:12*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message

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On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.

Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !

If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume
Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.

If you have a tether, why do you need a lifejacket? Seems like the tether
would keep you with the boat. Well, I guess if it sinks, then you would..

Do you have a satelite phone? I think I'd want one of those if I was out of
cell service.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cell phone service on the coast here is so spotty as to be useless or
at least not reliable. *Later in the year when I sail across the Gulf
of Mexico, I'll rent a sat phone.
The auto-inflate jacket has a built in harness and is comfy to wear.

Last time I did this, having a cell phone got me in trouble due to bad
reception. When I got back to within sight of land, I managed to call
my wife to tell her my engine had crapped out and I was sailing in and
would be late and I'd call her. She somehow misheard this and thought
I was having trouble. So, a few hours later while I was pulling the
boat down the canal by rowing the dinghy (a pain in the ass), the
Marine Patrol shows up asking me if I was David OHara. Yes, Why I
ask. Wife was worried, "You said you'd call me". No reception makes
that difficult. It is best not to call until you are tied to the dock.

On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"

In article a936614b-dd5f-4841-a4ae-dde9b56ea369
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"

Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...

On 10/19/09 3:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 3:42 pm, H the wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"


Doubt you'll make it that far...


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag
around his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:57:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"

Different strokes. To me fishing *IS* the cool stuff.
Exercise is for healthy people who don't know better.

--Vic

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag around
his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.



Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in a
salt & pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?

On 10/19/09 4:17 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag around
his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.



Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in a
salt& pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?




He wears it pink in the golf course shower room.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

On Oct 19, 4:04*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article a936614b-dd5f-4841-a4ae-dde9b56ea369
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...





On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. *I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"

Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...

Trips where things go wrong are always good in retrospect because they
are memorable. We've been on too many camping, backpacking, canoeing,
sailing, caving, etc trips to remember. The ones where nothing
happened you barely remember. I can look through my journal and find
we have slept in our Eureka backpacking tent over 375 days total over
the years but cannot remember most of the trips, they were
uneventful. I can remember having to drag a crashing hot air balloon
away from it in CO. I can remember the flood in MO where the tent
became a boat and still did not leak. Can remember the near miss by a
waterspout in FL at night. We are now up to tent #3 and are going
back to the old Eureka tent as the kids no longer go with us. Tent #3
we have probably spent only about 50 nights in and it is worn out
too. Only a couple memorable nights in it.
I met my wife on a crazed canoeing trip where it rained like hell for
48 hours and the river flooded so much we were not sure where it was,
we still joke about it 29 yrs later. We spent our honeymoon camping
up in the CO mountains for 70 days. She got hurt in a rock climbing
accident (broke an arm, fractured hip and broken toe) but we kept
camping till the snow was collapsing the tent during the nights. She
thinks I am a wimp for wanting a camper instead of the tent.
Overcoming minor adversity is what makes life fun, makes you wonder if
HK has any fun. I figure that if everything goes according to plan,
you are not trying hard enough to have fun. Ya gotta have some
adversity, otherwise you're just a crotchedy old man like HK. When
you get to be 95 and think back that "Everything went according to
plan", will it matter if you have alzheimers?