"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Doesn't matter, John...even in those days, you needed some talent to get
into an apprenticeship program. You still would have been stuck sweeping
the floors and swabbing out the bathrooms.

Not so, Harry. It may shatter your perceptions but back in the sixties,
wallowing in my [relative] youth, I was a card-carrying member of the UB of
C & J of A. Built several large buildings. Well, a couple other guys
helped. :-)

Keep an eye on Isabel, Harry. Good Luck.

JG