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2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:07:27 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica
wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:21:05 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:58:39 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:18:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message om... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Yes. You were. Oh yes I was. You're both such international mavens of everything. Anyone who believes Hannity is right up there in my book, of idiots. Damn! Now you've got us just where we want you. Oh, what a master of phrasiology you are. I'll bet you've got lots of bumper stickers on your car that match the little thought bubbles that rise up in your brain. ****ing dweeb. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:18:18 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Unlike you ****heads, I do my homework BEFORE making a claim Come back when you've grown past your grade-school approach to discussion Oh sure you do. You watch Hannity Beck and O'Reilly to study up. You haven't done homework since you checked your brain at Fox News. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:10:58 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica
wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:54:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:50:28 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:43:40 -0700, jps wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. You sound like someone who has never watched it and gets all their information from blogs like the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. Fox News is the Republican party. Do you have any idea who Roger Ailes is? Shep Smith is the only anchor on the channel that has a chance of being considered a journalist. ...which puts Fox one ahead of ABoC, NBoC, CBoS, BoNN, MSNBoC... combined. The rest are political hacks who opine the Republican message of the day, as dictated by Ailes. And your messiah gets his cues from terrorist William Ayers... And your tin hat needs a little tweak. Your lies need a major overhaul. Do you live in the woods or just somewhere that's culturally remote? The People's Revolutionary Democratic ******** of Western Washington. Very culturally remote, as in up to its ass in leftard roaches. Must get the Orkin people in here soon. Oh goody. Do the Orkin folks have automatic weapons to kill all the folks you disagree with? I'm glad you have to suffer in one of the bastions of free thinking people. Hope you live long and suffer hard. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:21:58 -0600, Alex DeLarge
wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:58:39 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:18:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Yes. You were. Oh yes I was. You're both such international mavens of everything. Anyone who believes Hannity is right up there in my book, of idiots. That you have a "book" is telling in and of itself, idiot. Yes, I got it from your favorite President. It's called My Pet Goat. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
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2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:21:58 -0600, Alex DeLarge wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:58:39 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:18:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Yes. You were. Oh yes I was. You're both such international mavens of everything. Anyone who believes Hannity is right up there in my book, of idiots. That you have a "book" is telling in and of itself, idiot. Yes, I got it from your favorite President. Eisenhower gave you a book? It's called My Pet Goat. I applaud you for reading above your age level! |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in news:rcffd5ldgilt8ouu9i1gdeo263iu8sksn6@
4ax.com: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:11:37 -0500, (Gray Ghost) wrote: Demon Buddha wrote in om: Gray Ghost wrote: Don't forget the people like me who would rather see the house burn down than go socialist. We already are socialist and have been since 1933, thanks to that commie rag FDR. We have been a crypto-socialist affair for abut 76 years. I don't see that changing any time soon. All those people on welfare for the 5th generation running would not know what to do with themselves. But let us hope I am wrong and they become faced with the choice of finding a job or starving to death. Yes, we have been socialist, but have now added the factor of more or less bald-faced fascism to the mix. I do not consider the USA to be a constitutional republic any longer in terms of how we actually do our business. We are a fascist capitalist police state. Things are likely to get worse before they get better. A lot worse. Which is why a fire is needed. Ah yes, to replenish the tree. Seems we should add alt.insane. assholes to the thread. Nope. To barbecue the libs. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:37:57 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Oct 15, 5:06*am, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:19:35 -0700, jps wrote: "Swift-Boating" (verb) To tell the truth about a leftist, often causing it to crap itself in outrage. Oh, so you can't swift boat a righty? Nothing stopping you from trying. What was I thinking? The left is incapable of telling the truth about anything... The world is real black and white for you, eh? The world is real ****y for you, eh? Kerry was torpedoed by his own lies and incompetence. * if this happened in the real world, george bush would have been a janitor. the right is always willing to put a sock puppet in power Hint for you: This ~is~ the real world - bizarre as it is. Just look at the current POTUS: half-black, half-white, half-muslim, half christian, half-Kenyan, half-American, half-wit... |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:52:29 -0700, jps wrote:
****ing dweeb. Try keeping your Obama fantasies to yourself. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:21:58 -0600, Alex DeLarge
wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:58:39 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:18:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Yes. You were. Oh yes I was. You're both such international mavens of everything. Anyone who believes Hannity is right up there in my book, of idiots. That you have a "book" is telling in and of itself, idiot. He's sharing Mack Daddy's copy of "Everybody Poops". |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:18:18 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Unlike you ****heads, I do my homework BEFORE making a claim Come back when you've grown past your grade-school approach to discussion You think jps has time? According to scientists, the Universe will reach total entropy in only 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years... |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
Barack Hussein Bohica wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:21:58 -0600, Alex DeLarge wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:58:39 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:18:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Yes. You were. Oh yes I was. You're both such international mavens of everything. Anyone who believes Hannity is right up there in my book, of idiots. That you have a "book" is telling in and of itself, idiot. He's sharing Mack Daddy's copy of "Everybody Poops". Sperm-glued pages aside... |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:55:08 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:10:58 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:54:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:50:28 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:43:40 -0700, jps wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. You sound like someone who has never watched it and gets all their information from blogs like the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. Fox News is the Republican party. Do you have any idea who Roger Ailes is? Shep Smith is the only anchor on the channel that has a chance of being considered a journalist. ...which puts Fox one ahead of ABoC, NBoC, CBoS, BoNN, MSNBoC... combined. The rest are political hacks who opine the Republican message of the day, as dictated by Ailes. And your messiah gets his cues from terrorist William Ayers... And your tin hat needs a little tweak. Your lies need a major overhaul. Do you live in the woods or just somewhere that's culturally remote? The People's Revolutionary Democratic ******** of Western Washington. Very culturally remote, as in up to its ass in leftard roaches. Must get the Orkin people in here soon. Oh goody. Do the Orkin folks have automatic weapons to kill all the folks you disagree with? Thuggery and death wishes are the specialty of you lefties: "I have to tell you, Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more like Mr. Big, and at some point somebody's going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he's going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we'll be there to watch." - Chris Matthews, MSNBC moonbat "(...) But despite the good feelings that come from organized labor spending money to protect its own, we can't help but feel nostalgic for days long gone. Days when millions in campaign money wouldn't be necessary to stop a minor irritant like Eyman. When, instead, a simple knock on the door and well-timed threat would be enough to solve any disagreement. Don't get us wrong. Democracy is great. But doesn't a situation like 1033, where we're literally stealing money from old people and kids, call for something more direct? Like a kneecapping?" - Caleb Hannan, nostalgic for union thuggery. http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/10/wheres_the_old-school_union_ju.php "Have considered, once I'm well into my dotage, taking one of the target rifles and a Gillie Suit into the woods, and simply offing a bunch of them as far from anything as is possible." - , failed leftist political candidate and successful netkook. I'm glad you have to suffer in one of the bastions of free thinking people. Hope you live long and suffer hard. Planning to live long and watch y'all suffer hard, thanks! At the rate you moonbats are thinning yourselves with abortion, drugs, HIV, and gangs - it's likely to be a fairly short show. "Bastions of free thinking"... there's a chuckle. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:56:42 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica
wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:55:08 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:10:58 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:54:09 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:50:28 -0700, Barack Hussein Bohica wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:43:40 -0700, jps wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. You sound like someone who has never watched it and gets all their information from blogs like the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. Fox News is the Republican party. Do you have any idea who Roger Ailes is? Shep Smith is the only anchor on the channel that has a chance of being considered a journalist. ...which puts Fox one ahead of ABoC, NBoC, CBoS, BoNN, MSNBoC... combined. The rest are political hacks who opine the Republican message of the day, as dictated by Ailes. And your messiah gets his cues from terrorist William Ayers... And your tin hat needs a little tweak. Your lies need a major overhaul. Do you live in the woods or just somewhere that's culturally remote? The People's Revolutionary Democratic ******** of Western Washington. Very culturally remote, as in up to its ass in leftard roaches. Must get the Orkin people in here soon. Oh goody. Do the Orkin folks have automatic weapons to kill all the folks you disagree with? Thuggery and death wishes are the specialty of you lefties: And that's why you were calling for an exterminator, because you're above all that sort of thugery. What lame berg would host a dildo like you? |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:09:56 -0500,
(Gray Ghost) wrote: jps wrote in news:rcffd5ldgilt8ouu9i1gdeo263iu8sksn6@ 4ax.com: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:11:37 -0500, (Gray Ghost) wrote: Demon Buddha wrote in news:acKdnUp_erL2LU7XnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews. com: Gray Ghost wrote: Don't forget the people like me who would rather see the house burn down than go socialist. We already are socialist and have been since 1933, thanks to that commie rag FDR. We have been a crypto-socialist affair for abut 76 years. I don't see that changing any time soon. All those people on welfare for the 5th generation running would not know what to do with themselves. But let us hope I am wrong and they become faced with the choice of finding a job or starving to death. Yes, we have been socialist, but have now added the factor of more or less bald-faced fascism to the mix. I do not consider the USA to be a constitutional republic any longer in terms of how we actually do our business. We are a fascist capitalist police state. Things are likely to get worse before they get better. A lot worse. Which is why a fire is needed. Ah yes, to replenish the tree. Seems we should add alt.insane. assholes to the thread. Nope. To barbecue the libs. Oh, how delicious. You're talking like an Ethiopian already. Maybe you could nuzzle up to a warlord and shine his pistol for him. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in
: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:09:56 -0500, (Gray Ghost) wrote: jps wrote in news:rcffd5ldgilt8ouu9i1gdeo263iu8sksn6@ 4ax.com: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:11:37 -0500, (Gray Ghost) wrote: Demon Buddha wrote in news:acKdnUp_erL2LU7XnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews .com: Gray Ghost wrote: Don't forget the people like me who would rather see the house burn down than go socialist. We already are socialist and have been since 1933, thanks to that commie rag FDR. We have been a crypto-socialist affair for abut 76 years. I don't see that changing any time soon. All those people on welfare for the 5th generation running would not know what to do with themselves. But let us hope I am wrong and they become faced with the choice of finding a job or starving to death. Yes, we have been socialist, but have now added the factor of more or less bald-faced fascism to the mix. I do not consider the USA to be a constitutional republic any longer in terms of how we actually do our business. We are a fascist capitalist police state. Things are likely to get worse before they get better. A lot worse. Which is why a fire is needed. Ah yes, to replenish the tree. Seems we should add alt.insane. assholes to the thread. Nope. To barbecue the libs. Oh, how delicious. You're talking like an Ethiopian already. Maybe you could nuzzle up to a warlord and shine his pistol for him. Haven't got time, I'm getting mine ready. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in
: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:09:56 -0500, (Gray Ghost) wrote: jps wrote in news:rcffd5ldgilt8ouu9i1gdeo263iu8sksn6@ 4ax.com: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:11:37 -0500, (Gray Ghost) wrote: Demon Buddha wrote in news:acKdnUp_erL2LU7XnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews .com: Gray Ghost wrote: Don't forget the people like me who would rather see the house burn down than go socialist. We already are socialist and have been since 1933, thanks to that commie rag FDR. We have been a crypto-socialist affair for abut 76 years. I don't see that changing any time soon. All those people on welfare for the 5th generation running would not know what to do with themselves. But let us hope I am wrong and they become faced with the choice of finding a job or starving to death. Yes, we have been socialist, but have now added the factor of more or less bald-faced fascism to the mix. I do not consider the USA to be a constitutional republic any longer in terms of how we actually do our business. We are a fascist capitalist police state. Things are likely to get worse before they get better. A lot worse. Which is why a fire is needed. Ah yes, to replenish the tree. Seems we should add alt.insane. assholes to the thread. Nope. To barbecue the libs. Oh, how delicious. You're talking like an Ethiopian already. Maybe you could nuzzle up to a warlord and shine his pistol for him. Would you like napalm with that? |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in
: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:08:16 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. IOW, you like to run your mouth but can't back it up. Folks like you are a dime a dozen. You're a silly ass who delights in his ignorance. Here's a contemporaneous example of your hero Hannity: Sean Hannity hosted not one but two whole segments last night devoted promoting the new book by Jerome Corsi -- godfather of the Swift-Boating of John Kerry -- titled America For Sale, which is basically an extended black-helicopter-style conspiracy tome straight out of the Patriot movement of the 1990s, updated for the new century. Two points: 1. Hannity is not my hero 2. Hannity is NOT a reporter or newsman, he is a political commentator and self confessed Reagan republican. To use Hannity to show bias of a network is absolutely idiotic on your part as that is what he is paid to do. He is supposed to spark political controversy or no one would watch his show. Do you think that Lou Dobbs represents the viewpoint or political leaning at CNN as a network? This is a classic case of conservatives mainstreaming extremist ideas. I haven't read all of Corsi's book yet, but it differs very little in ideas and content and overall thesis from the kinds of books you could buy at militia-meeting tables in the '90s. I haven't yet found whether Corsi decided to include his recent reportage for WorldNetDaily detailing the nefarious Obama conspiracy to round up conservatives and imprison them in concentration camps. Hannity managed to not bring up that point last night. Now, what was your point? -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
Howard Brazee wrote in
: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda. Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican? He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your choice with evidence. I don't need to.....he was the one who made the comments. The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms). As was the Democratic platform. What's your point? There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of the above). Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in news:cl1dd59n32hnagfkbk55pjo07ukp48qiub@
4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:23 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda. Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican? He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your choice with evidence. The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms). There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of the above). Well said. Roger Ailes and his assigns hew tightly to the Republican agenda. Notice that he said (As do liberal versions of all the above). Do you think that CNN gets its talking points from the Democratic Party or is it simply liberal biased like MSNBC? -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
Barack Hussein Bohica wrote in
: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in m: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. You sound like someone who has never watched it and gets all their information from blogs like the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. Fox News is the Republican party. No, it isn't. Do you have any idea who Roger Ailes is? Yep.....do you know who George Soros or Jeffrey Immelt are? Shep Smith is the only anchor on the channel that has a chance of being considered a journalist. A true journalist, yes....but a news person can also be a straight shooter. Political commentators, such as O'Reilly, Hannity and company are there to spark commentary......Glen Beck is there as libertarian entertainment. The rest are political hacks who opine the Republican message of the day, as dictated by Ailes. You really think Greta Van Susteren gets her Republican message from Ailes? How about Julie Bandaras? Or Major Smith? Or Carl Cameron? Or (gag) Geraldo? Geraldo fails to get messages from just about anyone....been like that since that neoNAZI thug hit him in the mouth on his old show. Maybe you should stop watching and read a little history from the folks who've worked there. I have also heard from folks who used to work for MSNBC and CNN. You should try that. I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
"Barack Hussein Bohica" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:18:18 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are straight shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct? They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the boss. Everyone at Fox does. ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........ Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand. It obviously suits you. Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid claims and then expect you to prove them wrong It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule "This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.." I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their claims Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black. Unlike you ****heads, I do my homework BEFORE making a claim Come back when you've grown past your grade-school approach to discussion You think jps has time? According to scientists, the Universe will reach total entropy in only 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years... True But I am an optimist.. :-)) |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:02:06 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote: jps wrote in news:cl1dd59n32hnagfkbk55pjo07ukp48qiub@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:23 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda. Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican? He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your choice with evidence. The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms). There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of the above). Well said. Roger Ailes and his assigns hew tightly to the Republican agenda. Notice that he said (As do liberal versions of all the above). Do you think that CNN gets its talking points from the Democratic Party or is it simply liberal biased like MSNBC? CNN is a hodge podge of everyone's talking points. They're just as likely to pick up something from the R's as they are from the D's. MSNBC is certainly in the liberal camp but neither CNN nor MSNBC fabricate stories like Fox. Neither do they astroturf taxpayer gatherings like Fox does. Fox news people not only promote these gatherings they "report" on but they're in the crowd getting them riled up before the cameras are turned on. Is that news or premeditated, produced propaganda? |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far. Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:12 -0400, H the K
wrote: On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far. Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism. OMG, is that some sort of socialism they're practicing? No doubt the medical attention is being given to black welfare mothers who drive Cadillacs and trade their foodstamps for crack, right? |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On 10/16/09 4:42 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:12 -0400, H the K wrote: On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far. Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism. OMG, is that some sort of socialism they're practicing? No doubt the medical attention is being given to black welfare mothers who drive Cadillacs and trade their foodstamps for crack, right? Indeed. But the clips I saw showed a colorful assortment of people, including many who had jobs but no health insurance. :) -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
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2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On 10/16/09 4:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:39:09 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:26:59 -0700, wrote: MSNBC is certainly in the liberal camp but neither CNN nor MSNBC fabricate stories like Fox. Unless you watch Olbernann. He is just a left wing Limbaugh who never lets the truth get in the way of a good rant. I'll admit to hyperbole but Rush is a serial fabricator. I listen to him frequently and can tell when he's stretching the truth unfairly and to the benefit of his point, but he doesn't just make stuff up. Rush turns events inside out to make them seem the complete opposite of what they are. I suggest you spend more time watching Rachael Maddow. She's the goods. And yes, she does some positioning but she's honest about it. Rachel is *the best," no doubt about it. I wish she were moderating "Meet the Press." -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories No they don't. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...px?RelNum=6664 Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist By Meg Sullivan December 14, 2005 While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left. These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly. "I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are." "Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co-author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar. The results appear in the latest issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics, which will become available in mid-December. Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low-population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S. voter. Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants — most of them college students — to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation. Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score. "A media person would have never done this study," said Groseclose, a UCLA political science professor, whose research and teaching focuses on the U.S. Congress. "It takes a Congress scholar even to think of using ADA scores as a measure. And I don't think many media scholars would have considered comparing news stories to congressional speeches." Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal. Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter. The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third. "Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, Charlie Gibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators." The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found. "If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia. Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist. An additional feature of the study shows how each outlet compares in political orientation with actual lawmakers. The news pages of The Wall Street Journal scored a little to the left of the average American Democrat, as determined by the average ADA score of all Democrats in Congress (85 versus 84). With scores in the mid-70s, CBS' "Evening News" and The New York Times looked similar to Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has an ADA score of 74. Most of the outlets were less liberal than Lieberman but more liberal than former Sen. John Breaux, D-La. Those media outlets included the Drudge Report, ABC's "World News Tonight," NBC's "Nightly News," USA Today, NBC's "Today Show," Time magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, NPR's "Morning Edition," CBS' "Early Show" and The Washington Post. Since Groseclose and Milyo were more concerned with bias in news reporting than opinion pieces, which are designed to stake a political position, they omitted editorials and Op-Eds from their tallies. This is one reason their study finds The Wall Street Journal more liberal than conventional wisdom asserts. Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center. "One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Web sites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media." Yet another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom relates to National Public Radio, often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet. But according to the UCLA-University of Missouri study, it ranked eighth most liberal of the 20 that the study examined. "By our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet," Groseclose said. "Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's. If anything, government-funded outlets in our sample have a slightly lower average ADA score (61), than the private outlets in our sample (62.8)." The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research. "No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said. The results break new ground. "Past researchers have been able to say whether an outlet is conservative or liberal, but no one has ever compared media outlets to lawmakers," Groseclose said. "Our work gives a precise characterization of the bias and relates it to known commodity — politicians." -UCLA- |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:02:06 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:cl1dd59n32hnagfkbk55pjo07ukp48qiub@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:23 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda. Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican? He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your choice with evidence. The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms). There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of the above). Well said. Roger Ailes and his assigns hew tightly to the Republican agenda. Notice that he said (As do liberal versions of all the above). Do you think that CNN gets its talking points from the Democratic Party or is it simply liberal biased like MSNBC? CNN is a hodge podge of everyone's talking points. They're just as likely to pick up something from the R's as they are from the D's. Nope: No they don't. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...px?RelNum=6664 Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist By Meg Sullivan December 14, 2005 While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left. These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly. "I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are." "Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co-author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar. The results appear in the latest issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics, which will become available in mid-December. Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low-population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S. voter. Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants — most of them college students — to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation. Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score. "A media person would have never done this study," said Groseclose, a UCLA political science professor, whose research and teaching focuses on the U.S. Congress. "It takes a Congress scholar even to think of using ADA scores as a measure. And I don't think many media scholars would have considered comparing news stories to congressional speeches." Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal. Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter. The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third. "Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, Charlie Gibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators." The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found. "If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia. Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist. An additional feature of the study shows how each outlet compares in political orientation with actual lawmakers. The news pages of The Wall Street Journal scored a little to the left of the average American Democrat, as determined by the average ADA score of all Democrats in Congress (85 versus 84). With scores in the mid-70s, CBS' "Evening News" and The New York Times looked similar to Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has an ADA score of 74. Most of the outlets were less liberal than Lieberman but more liberal than former Sen. John Breaux, D-La. Those media outlets included the Drudge Report, ABC's "World News Tonight," NBC's "Nightly News," USA Today, NBC's "Today Show," Time magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, NPR's "Morning Edition," CBS' "Early Show" and The Washington Post. Since Groseclose and Milyo were more concerned with bias in news reporting than opinion pieces, which are designed to stake a political position, they omitted editorials and Op-Eds from their tallies. This is one reason their study finds The Wall Street Journal more liberal than conventional wisdom asserts. Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center. "One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Web sites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media." Yet another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom relates to National Public Radio, often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet. But according to the UCLA-University of Missouri study, it ranked eighth most liberal of the 20 that the study examined. "By our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet," Groseclose said. "Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's. If anything, government-funded outlets in our sample have a slightly lower average ADA score (61), than the private outlets in our sample (62.8)." The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research. "No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said. The results break new ground. "Past researchers have been able to say whether an outlet is conservative or liberal, but no one has ever compared media outlets to lawmakers," Groseclose said. "Our work gives a precise characterization of the bias and relates it to known commodity — politicians." -UCLA- |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
H the K wrote:
On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. Keith is behind a fundraiser He's a liar: No they don't. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...px?RelNum=6664 Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist By Meg Sullivan December 14, 2005 While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left. These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly. "I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are." "Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co-author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar. The results appear in the latest issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics, which will become available in mid-December. Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low-population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S. voter. Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants — most of them college students — to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation. Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score. "A media person would have never done this study," said Groseclose, a UCLA political science professor, whose research and teaching focuses on the U.S. Congress. "It takes a Congress scholar even to think of using ADA scores as a measure. And I don't think many media scholars would have considered comparing news stories to congressional speeches." Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal. Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter. The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third. "Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, Charlie Gibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators." The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found. "If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia. Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist. An additional feature of the study shows how each outlet compares in political orientation with actual lawmakers. The news pages of The Wall Street Journal scored a little to the left of the average American Democrat, as determined by the average ADA score of all Democrats in Congress (85 versus 84). With scores in the mid-70s, CBS' "Evening News" and The New York Times looked similar to Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has an ADA score of 74. Most of the outlets were less liberal than Lieberman but more liberal than former Sen. John Breaux, D-La. Those media outlets included the Drudge Report, ABC's "World News Tonight," NBC's "Nightly News," USA Today, NBC's "Today Show," Time magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, NPR's "Morning Edition," CBS' "Early Show" and The Washington Post. Since Groseclose and Milyo were more concerned with bias in news reporting than opinion pieces, which are designed to stake a political position, they omitted editorials and Op-Eds from their tallies. This is one reason their study finds The Wall Street Journal more liberal than conventional wisdom asserts. Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center. "One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Web sites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media." Yet another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom relates to National Public Radio, often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet. But according to the UCLA-University of Missouri study, it ranked eighth most liberal of the 20 that the study examined. "By our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet," Groseclose said. "Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's. If anything, government-funded outlets in our sample have a slightly lower average ADA score (61), than the private outlets in our sample (62.8)." The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research. "No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said. The results break new ground. "Past researchers have been able to say whether an outlet is conservative or liberal, but no one has ever compared media outlets to lawmakers," Groseclose said. "Our work gives a precise characterization of the bias and relates it to known commodity — politicians." -UCLA- |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:12 -0400, H the K wrote: On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far. Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism. OMG, is that some sort of socialism they're practicing? No they don't. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...px?RelNum=6664 Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist By Meg Sullivan December 14, 2005 While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left. These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly. "I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are." "Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co-author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar. The results appear in the latest issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics, which will become available in mid-December. Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low-population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S. voter. Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants — most of them college students — to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation. Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score. "A media person would have never done this study," said Groseclose, a UCLA political science professor, whose research and teaching focuses on the U.S. Congress. "It takes a Congress scholar even to think of using ADA scores as a measure. And I don't think many media scholars would have considered comparing news stories to congressional speeches." Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal. Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter. The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third. "Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, Charlie Gibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators." The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found. "If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia. Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist. An additional feature of the study shows how each outlet compares in political orientation with actual lawmakers. The news pages of The Wall Street Journal scored a little to the left of the average American Democrat, as determined by the average ADA score of all Democrats in Congress (85 versus 84). With scores in the mid-70s, CBS' "Evening News" and The New York Times looked similar to Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has an ADA score of 74. Most of the outlets were less liberal than Lieberman but more liberal than former Sen. John Breaux, D-La. Those media outlets included the Drudge Report, ABC's "World News Tonight," NBC's "Nightly News," USA Today, NBC's "Today Show," Time magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, NPR's "Morning Edition," CBS' "Early Show" and The Washington Post. Since Groseclose and Milyo were more concerned with bias in news reporting than opinion pieces, which are designed to stake a political position, they omitted editorials and Op-Eds from their tallies. This is one reason their study finds The Wall Street Journal more liberal than conventional wisdom asserts. Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center. "One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Web sites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media." Yet another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom relates to National Public Radio, often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet. But according to the UCLA-University of Missouri study, it ranked eighth most liberal of the 20 that the study examined. "By our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet," Groseclose said. "Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's. If anything, government-funded outlets in our sample have a slightly lower average ADA score (61), than the private outlets in our sample (62.8)." The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research. "No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said. The results break new ground. "Past researchers have been able to say whether an outlet is conservative or liberal, but no one has ever compared media outlets to lawmakers," Groseclose said. "Our work gives a precise characterization of the bias and relates it to known commodity — politicians." -UCLA- |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in
: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. ROFLMAO!! Trust whom you wish. I prefer FOX, you can have Olbermann. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. Are you saying that the gay march wasn't covered by CCN or MSNBC either? That must have hurt. Of course, it was mentioned on FOX. You should watch it from time to time instead of getting your talking points from the Daily Kos or the Huffington Post. ;) These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. You made a statement and gave *two* possible examples. Don't try to claim "a few examples". ;) -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote in
: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:02:06 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in news:cl1dd59n32hnagfkbk55pjo07ukp48qiub@ 4ax.com: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:23 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is conservative but it isn't Republican. All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda. Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican? He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your choice with evidence. The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms). There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of the above). Well said. Roger Ailes and his assigns hew tightly to the Republican agenda. Notice that he said (As do liberal versions of all the above). Do you think that CNN gets its talking points from the Democratic Party or is it simply liberal biased like MSNBC? CNN is a hodge podge of everyone's talking points. They're just as likely to pick up something from the R's as they are from the D's. MSNBC is certainly in the liberal camp but neither CNN nor MSNBC fabricate stories like Fox. Not what I asked. You did answer about CNN. Neither do they astroturf taxpayer gatherings like Fox does. Fox news people not only promote these gatherings they "report" on but they're in the crowd getting them riled up before the cameras are turned on. Is that news or premeditated, produced propaganda? Depends on who is reporting on it. -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:54:14 -0600, Jake Havoc wrote:
jps wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories No they don't. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...px?RelNum=6664 Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist By Meg Sullivan December 14, 2005 Holy ****. Is this article your answer to everything? It's 5 years old. Do you think the world has remained exactly as it was in 2005? We're talking about today. Every media outlet we're discussing has undergone pretty radical changes since 2005 and certainly since the data they were collecting were likely from the immediate aftermath of the post 911 period. Then, look at their baseline. It uses politics and politicians as the baseline. Do you even know what you're posting or does it matter? |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:00:16 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote: jps wrote in : On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. ROFLMAO!! Trust whom you wish. I prefer FOX, you can have Olbermann. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. Are you saying that the gay march wasn't covered by CCN or MSNBC either? That must have hurt. Of course, it was mentioned on FOX. You should watch it from time to time instead of getting your talking points from the Daily Kos or the Huffington Post. ;) These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. You made a statement and gave *two* possible examples. Don't try to claim "a few examples". ;) And you don't answer to **** all. You keep fogging that mirror. CNN and MSNBC both covered the gay march and the Fox News Taxpayer Revolt (TM). Fox News blasted the taxpayer revolt 24/7 for days. The gay march got 10 minutes of coverage. That station is full of ****, as are most of its followers. Congrats on creating your own fantasy world. You chose the wrong capsule. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:54:14 -0600, Jake Havoc wrote: jps wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories No they don't. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...px?RelNum=6664 Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist By Meg Sullivan December 14, 2005 Holy ****. Is this article your answer to everything? It's 5 years old. Do you think the world has remained exactly as it was in 2005? http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...4/143lkblo.asp THE ARGUMENT over whether the national press is dominated by liberals is over. Since 1962, there have been 11 surveys of the media that sought the political views of hundreds of journalists. In 1971, they were 53 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In a 1976 survey of the Washington press corps, it was 59 percent liberal, 18 percent conservative. A 1985 poll of 3,200 reporters found them to be self-identified as 55 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In 1996, another survey of Washington journalists pegged the breakdown as 61 percent liberal, 9 percent conservative. Now, the new study by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found the national media to be 34 percent liberal and 7 percent conservative. Over 40-plus years, the only thing that's changed in the media's politics is that many national journalists have now cleverly decided to call themselves moderates. But their actual views haven't changed, the Pew survey showed. Their political beliefs are close to those of self-identified liberals and nowhere near those of conservatives. And the proportion of liberals to conservatives in the press, either 3-to-1 or 4-to-1, has stayed the same. That liberals are dominant is now beyond dispute. |
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, riots, terror
jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:00:16 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: jps wrote in : On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party. That's a very foggy mirror you've got. Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then "report" on them. ROFLMAO!! Trust whom you wish. I prefer FOX, you can have Olbermann. They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on television by CNN or MSNBC. Are you saying that the gay march wasn't covered by CCN or MSNBC either? That must have hurt. Of course, it was mentioned on FOX. You should watch it from time to time instead of getting your talking points from the Daily Kos or the Huffington Post. ;) These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content. You made a statement and gave *two* possible examples. Don't try to claim "a few examples". ;) And you don't answer to **** all. You keep fogging that mirror. CNN and MSNBC both covered the gay march and the Fox News Taxpayer Revolt (TM). Fox News blasted the taxpayer revolt 24/7 for days. The gay march got 10 minutes of coverage. That station is full of ****, as are most of its followers. Congrats on creating your own fantasy world. You chose the wrong capsule. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...4/143lkblo.asp THE ARGUMENT over whether the national press is dominated by liberals is over. Since 1962, there have been 11 surveys of the media that sought the political views of hundreds of journalists. In 1971, they were 53 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In a 1976 survey of the Washington press corps, it was 59 percent liberal, 18 percent conservative. A 1985 poll of 3,200 reporters found them to be self-identified as 55 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In 1996, another survey of Washington journalists pegged the breakdown as 61 percent liberal, 9 percent conservative. Now, the new study by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found the national media to be 34 percent liberal and 7 percent conservative. Over 40-plus years, the only thing that's changed in the media's politics is that many national journalists have now cleverly decided to call themselves moderates. But their actual views haven't changed, the Pew survey showed. Their political beliefs are close to those of self-identified liberals and nowhere near those of conservatives. And the proportion of liberals to conservatives in the press, either 3-to-1 or 4-to-1, has stayed the same. That liberals are dominant is now beyond dispute. |
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