Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Oct 2009
Posts: 113
Default The London Times gets it...

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met
with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably
deep embarrassment by the President himself.

Rarely has an award had such an obvious political and partisan intent. It
was clearly seen by the Norwegian Nobel committee as a way of expressing
European gratitude for an end to the Bush Administration, approval for the
election of America's first black president and hope that Washington will
honour its promise to re-engage with the world.

Instead, the prize risks looking preposterous in its claims, patronising in
its intentions and demeaning in its attempt to build up a man who has barely
begun his period in office, let alone achieved any tangible outcome for
peace.

The pretext for the prize was Mr. Obama's decision to "strengthen
international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples". Many people will
point out that, while the President has indeed promised to "reset" relations
with Russia and offer a fresh start to relations with the Muslim world,
there is little so far to show for his fine words.

East-West relations are little better than they were six months ago, and any
change is probably due largely to the global economic downturn; and America's
vaunted determination to re-engage with the Muslim world has failed to make
any concrete progress towards ending the conflict between the Israelis and
the Palestinians.

There is a further irony in offering a peace prize to a president whose
principal preoccupation at the moment is when and how to expand the war in
Afghanistan.

The spectacle of Mr. Obama mounting the podium in Oslo to accept a prize
that once went to Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi and Mother Theresa would
be all the more absurd if it follows a White House decision to send up to
40,000 more US troops to Afghanistan. However just such a war may be deemed
in Western eyes, Muslims would not be the only group to complain that peace
is hardly compatible with an escalation in hostilities.

The Nobel committee has made controversial awards before. Some have appeared
to reward hope rather than achievement: the 1976 prize for the two peace
campaigners in Northern Ireland, Betty Williams and Mairead Corrigan, was
clearly intended to send a signal to the two battling communities in Ulster.
But the political influence of the two winners turned out, sadly, to be
negligible.

In the Middle East, the award to Menachem Begin of Israel and Anwar Sadat of
Egypt in 1978 also looks, in retrospect, as naive as the later award to
Yassir Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin - although it could be argued
that both the Camp David and Oslo accords, while not bringing peace, were at
least attempts to break the deadlock.

Mr. Obama's prize is more likely, however, to be compared with the most
contentious prize of all: the 1973 prize to Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho
for their negotiations to end the Vietnam war. Dr Kissinger was branded a
warmonger for his support for the bombing campaign in Cambodia; and the
Vietnamese negotiator was subsequently seen as a liar whose government never
intended to honour a peace deal but was waiting for the moment to attack
South Vietnam.

Mr. Obama becomes the third sitting US President to receive the prize. The
committee said today that he had "captured the world's attention". It is
certainly true that his energy and aspirations have dazzled many of his
supporters. Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all
previous winners have been diminished.




  #2   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Oct 2009
Posts: 148
Default The London Times gets it...

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met
with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably
deep embarrassment by the President himself.


snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all
previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.
  #3   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
Jim Jim is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Sep 2009
Posts: 483
Default The London Times gets it...

John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met
with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably
deep embarrassment by the President himself.


snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all
previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


I haven't been following this bizarre story but I seem to recall hearing
Barry as being quoted that "I don't deserve it". It's so rare that he is
caught telling the truth, we should implant that quote in our memory of
him. It is sure to become a classic along with "I did not have sex with
that woman" and probably several others that I cannot recall at this
moment.
  #4   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
Jim Jim is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 503
Default The London Times gets it...

Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace
prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be
met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and
probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.


snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of
all previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


I haven't been following this bizarre story but I seem to recall hearing
Barry as being quoted that "I don't deserve it". It's so rare that he is
caught telling the truth, we should implant that quote in our memory of
him. It is sure to become a classic along with "I did not have sex with
that woman" and probably several others that I cannot recall at this
moment.



The US does not get the Olympics, the Republican Party cheers, the
President gets the Nobel Peace prize and the Republican's say he didn't
deserve it.

There is no wondering whose side they are on. Traitors all.

Go ahead and argue that point.
  #5   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,764
Default The London Times gets it...

On 10/11/09 1:54 PM, Jim wrote:
Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace
prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will
be met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals
and probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.

snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of
all previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


I haven't been following this bizarre story but I seem to recall
hearing Barry as being quoted that "I don't deserve it". It's so rare
that he is caught telling the truth, we should implant that quote in
our memory of him. It is sure to become a classic along with "I did
not have sex with that woman" and probably several others that I
cannot recall at this moment.



The US does not get the Olympics, the Republican Party cheers, the
President gets the Nobel Peace prize and the Republican's say he didn't
deserve it.

There is no wondering whose side they are on. Traitors all.

Go ahead and argue that point.



There's no doubt that Republican/Conservatives hate America. Just look
at the Republican/Conservative trash that logs on and posts here.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All


  #6   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
Jim Jim is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 503
Default The London Times gets it...

H the K wrote:
On 10/11/09 1:54 PM, Jim wrote:
Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace
prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will
be met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals
and probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.

snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of
all previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.

I haven't been following this bizarre story but I seem to recall
hearing Barry as being quoted that "I don't deserve it". It's so rare
that he is caught telling the truth, we should implant that quote in
our memory of him. It is sure to become a classic along with "I did
not have sex with that woman" and probably several others that I
cannot recall at this moment.



The US does not get the Olympics, the Republican Party cheers, the
President gets the Nobel Peace prize and the Republican's say he didn't
deserve it.

There is no wondering whose side they are on. Traitors all.

Go ahead and argue that point.



There's no doubt that Republican/Conservatives hate America. Just look
at the Republican/Conservative trash that logs on and posts here.


It's getting hard to come to any other conclusion.
  #7   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Oct 2009
Posts: 148
Default The London Times gets it...

On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:54:13 -0700, Jim wrote:

Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace
prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be
met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and
probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.

snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of
all previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


I haven't been following this bizarre story but I seem to recall hearing
Barry as being quoted that "I don't deserve it". It's so rare that he is
caught telling the truth, we should implant that quote in our memory of
him. It is sure to become a classic along with "I did not have sex with
that woman" and probably several others that I cannot recall at this
moment.



The US does not get the Olympics, the Republican Party cheers, the
President gets the Nobel Peace prize and the Republican's say he didn't
deserve it.

There is no wondering whose side they are on. Traitors all.

Go ahead and argue that point.


Perhaps you should look around. It wasn't just Republicans who
questioned the award to Obama.


  #8   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
Jim Jim is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Sep 2009
Posts: 483
Default The London Times gets it...

Jim wrote:
Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace
prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will
be met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals
and probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.

snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of
all previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


I haven't been following this bizarre story but I seem to recall
hearing Barry as being quoted that "I don't deserve it". It's so rare
that he is caught telling the truth, we should implant that quote in
our memory of him. It is sure to become a classic along with "I did
not have sex with that woman" and probably several others that I
cannot recall at this moment.



The US does not get the Olympics, the Republican Party cheers, the
President gets the Nobel Peace prize and the Republican's say he didn't
deserve it.

There is no wondering whose side they are on. Traitors all.

Go ahead and argue that point.


No No He said himself he didn't deserve it.
Whose side who is on, Jim? Who are traiters? Why?
If you have a point, make it.
  #9   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Oct 2009
Posts: 30
Default The London Times gets it...

John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met
with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably
deep embarrassment by the President himself.


snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all
previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


And you can expect no comments from the usual suspects...
  #10   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Oct 2009
Posts: 148
Default The London Times gets it...

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:59:30 -0400, Roger
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:59:59 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

though not the loony left:

October 9, 2009 -



Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
Michael Binyon




The award of this year's Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met
with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably
deep embarrassment by the President himself.


snipped

Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they
can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all
previous winners have been diminished.


And the last sentence says it all.


And you can expect no comments from the usual suspects...


It's a damn shame. Here Don proudly posts an article about the
accomplishments of some folks up his way - enough to earn a Nobel
prize. A couple days later this fiasco occurs, giving the medal all
the prestige of a golf ball marker.

Damn shame.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Overseas London MWB[_2_] Tall Ship Photos 0 January 29th 09 04:29 AM
Dragon Lady, Ruff Times and High Times Skip Gundlach Cruising 21 October 3rd 08 03:51 AM
A View From London Bridge - Old London ŽiŠardo Tall Ship Photos 0 August 3rd 08 08:58 PM
Places to buy kit in London? bornfree UK Paddle 2 April 29th 08 01:26 AM
January 1 - It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... Skip Gundlach Cruising 12 January 3rd 08 01:09 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:00 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Š2004-2025 BoatBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Boats"

 

Copyright © 2017