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Tom Francis - SWSports October 9th 09 10:42 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

H the K[_2_] October 9th 09 10:45 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On 10/9/09 5:42 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Sour grapes tom...on a roll...


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Vic Smith October 9th 09 11:56 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic

nom=de=plume October 10th 09 12:44 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...

--
Nom=de=Plume



wf3h October 10th 09 01:17 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Oct 9, 5:42*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


says the crazed right wing fanatic unhappy that obama's starting to
undo the massive damage george bush did to the US and the planet

wf3h October 10th 09 01:17 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Oct 9, 6:56*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports





wrote:
Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)


Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.


Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.


Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.


Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. *Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.


bush made the US a joke

nom=de=plume October 10th 09 01:45 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before. Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was unintentional.

--
Nom=de=Plume



H the K[_2_] October 10th 09 02:14 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On 10/9/09 10:01 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was unintentional.


I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


The Nobel committee has awarded on the basis of "hope" before.

Desmond Tutu won the prize for working for the end of apartheid, which
was not achieved for more than 10 years after his selection.

The Dalai Lama won the prize for struggling for the liberation of Tibet,
which has not been achieved.

Aung San Suu Kyi won for her efforts to liberate Burma, which has not
happened.

I can think of many reasons why Obama won, including these few:

his ending of the concept of pre-emptive war
his ending of the policy of not talking to our enemies
his shutting down of the torture mills
his message of hope and a brighter future for people all around the world





--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Vic Smith October 10th 09 02:36 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before. Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic


Vic Smith October 10th 09 03:01 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was unintentional.


I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

Vic Smith October 10th 09 03:43 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:14:23 -0400, H the K
wrote:



The Nobel committee has awarded on the basis of "hope" before.

Desmond Tutu won the prize for working for the end of apartheid, which
was not achieved for more than 10 years after his selection.

The Dalai Lama won the prize for struggling for the liberation of Tibet,
which has not been achieved.

Aung San Suu Kyi won for her efforts to liberate Burma, which has not
happened.


I saw the same Rachel Maddow puerile argument. She really
disappointed me with that.
Akin to saying those who won the medicine award for the double helix
wouldn't have got the award because DNA still isn't fully understood.
A look at the list of former winners shows without exception - until
Obama - years or decades of hard and often not widely recognized work.
There can be quibbles with the list, but that is a constant.
Even Obama is embarrassed at getting the award.
But he's handled it well.
Any justification is political nonsense IMO.
And the award was a political statement more than for real
accomplishment and sacrifice.
We'll see how it holds up if he decides to drop some MOAB's on the
Arabs. I suspect this is an attempt to forestall such events.

I can think of many reasons why Obama won, including these few:

his ending of the concept of pre-emptive war
his ending of the policy of not talking to our enemies
his shutting down of the torture mills


Right. Except those are givens, and to me simple American and common
sense values. Hardly groundbreaking. Party platform.

his message of hope and a brighter future for people all around the world


I understand "hope." But we live in a reality of sacrifice and work.
And that's how medals and ribbons should be won.

--Vic


nom=de=plume October 10th 09 05:41 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.


I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic



I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of recent
presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 10th 09 05:43 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:14:23 -0400, H the K
wrote:



The Nobel committee has awarded on the basis of "hope" before.

Desmond Tutu won the prize for working for the end of apartheid, which
was not achieved for more than 10 years after his selection.

The Dalai Lama won the prize for struggling for the liberation of Tibet,
which has not been achieved.

Aung San Suu Kyi won for her efforts to liberate Burma, which has not
happened.


I saw the same Rachel Maddow puerile argument. She really
disappointed me with that.
Akin to saying those who won the medicine award for the double helix
wouldn't have got the award because DNA still isn't fully understood.
A look at the list of former winners shows without exception - until
Obama - years or decades of hard and often not widely recognized work.
There can be quibbles with the list, but that is a constant.
Even Obama is embarrassed at getting the award.
But he's handled it well.
Any justification is political nonsense IMO.
And the award was a political statement more than for real
accomplishment and sacrifice.
We'll see how it holds up if he decides to drop some MOAB's on the
Arabs. I suspect this is an attempt to forestall such events.

I can think of many reasons why Obama won, including these few:

his ending of the concept of pre-emptive war
his ending of the policy of not talking to our enemies
his shutting down of the torture mills


Right. Except those are givens, and to me simple American and common
sense values. Hardly groundbreaking. Party platform.

his message of hope and a brighter future for people all around the world


I understand "hope." But we live in a reality of sacrifice and work.
And that's how medals and ribbons should be won.

--Vic



We also live in a reality of hope and sometimes hopelessness. I choose the
former.

--
Nom=de=Plume



CalifBill October 10th 09 05:58 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.


I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic



I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.



nom=de=plume October 10th 09 06:39 AM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic



I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.



Sure is nice to be a proud American... isn't it.

--
Nom=de=Plume



John H[_9_] October 10th 09 12:11 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:43:03 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:14:23 -0400, H the K
wrote:



The Nobel committee has awarded on the basis of "hope" before.

Desmond Tutu won the prize for working for the end of apartheid, which
was not achieved for more than 10 years after his selection.

The Dalai Lama won the prize for struggling for the liberation of Tibet,
which has not been achieved.

Aung San Suu Kyi won for her efforts to liberate Burma, which has not
happened.


I saw the same Rachel Maddow puerile argument. She really
disappointed me with that.
Akin to saying those who won the medicine award for the double helix
wouldn't have got the award because DNA still isn't fully understood.
A look at the list of former winners shows without exception - until
Obama - years or decades of hard and often not widely recognized work.
There can be quibbles with the list, but that is a constant.
Even Obama is embarrassed at getting the award.
But he's handled it well.
Any justification is political nonsense IMO.
And the award was a political statement more than for real
accomplishment and sacrifice.
We'll see how it holds up if he decides to drop some MOAB's on the
Arabs. I suspect this is an attempt to forestall such events.

I can think of many reasons why Obama won, including these few:

his ending of the concept of pre-emptive war
his ending of the policy of not talking to our enemies
his shutting down of the torture mills


Right. Except those are givens, and to me simple American and common
sense values. Hardly groundbreaking. Party platform.

his message of hope and a brighter future for people all around the world


I understand "hope." But we live in a reality of sacrifice and work.
And that's how medals and ribbons should be won.

--Vic


Good answer, Vic. I first noticed, upon reading Harry's
'justification,' was his use of 'action verbs' for his examples.

Tutu 'working', Dalai Lama 'struggling', Aung San Suu Kyi 'efforts to
liberate'...

I waited to see the Obama action verb. I guess it would be 'suffered
behind a teleprompter'.

John H[_9_] October 10th 09 12:15 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic



I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.



Tom Francis - SWSports October 10th 09 12:55 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


Got news for you - she's not a she.

John H[_9_] October 10th 09 12:58 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:55:46 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


Got news for you - she's not a she.


hesheit's got the logic often used by 'she's'

H the K[_2_] October 10th 09 01:16 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
On 10/10/09 7:55 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
"Vic wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


Got news for you - she's not a she.



Gotta love it when the "regressives" have their little boy
"discussions." Your compadre, the idiot Scott Ingersoll, thinks "nom" is
me.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Jim October 10th 09 03:09 PM

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John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


I must have missed that comment. Imagine if Tina Fey were to do nom la
plumage. That would be hilarious. That's not to say that Plumage is not
funny without parody.
If harry endorses something, there must be something in it for him.

Jim October 10th 09 03:15 PM

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John H wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:55:46 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.

You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.

Got news for you - she's not a she.


hesheit's got the logic often used by 'she's'


So does Jim Hertvik but I'm not positive yet that she is he. I'm waiting
for hesheit to explode. That'll give us better insight into the
personality. My candidates are hertvik, jps, and gould in that order.

Don White October 10th 09 03:37 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:55:46 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the
world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been
case of recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.
You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.
Got news for you - she's not a she.


hesheit's got the logic often used by 'she's'


So does Jim Hertvik but I'm not positive yet that she is he. I'm waiting
for hesheit to explode. That'll give us better insight into the
personality. My candidates are hertvik, jps, and gould in that order.


Aren't you the Jr Detective.
Instead of worrying about her, try to clean-up your own act. Then it
wouldn't matter... she'd just be a fellow poster interested in boats.



Jim October 10th 09 03:47 PM

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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:55:46 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the
world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic
I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been
case of recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.
You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.
Got news for you - she's not a she.
hesheit's got the logic often used by 'she's'

So does Jim Hertvik but I'm not positive yet that she is he. I'm waiting
for hesheit to explode. That'll give us better insight into the
personality. My candidates are hertvik, jps, and gould in that order.


Aren't you the Jr Detective.
Instead of worrying about her, try to clean-up your own act. Then it
wouldn't matter... she'd just be a fellow poster interested in boats.


Yessir mr. junior net cop. We should all take your admonition under
advisement. Starting with youse own self.

John H Rant October 10th 09 03:50 PM

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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:09:10 -0400, Jim wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


I must have missed that comment. Imagine if Tina Fey were to do nom la
plumage. That would be hilarious. That's not to say that Plumage is not
funny without parody.
If harry endorses something, there must be something in it for him.


She didn't make that comment. She said, in effect,

'We should be proud of Obama because the Nobel Committe thinks so
highly of him.'

That is the same as saying,

'We should be proud of nomdeplum because Harry Krause thinks so highly
of her.

Both Harry's opinion and the Nobel Committee's opinion carry about the
same weight anymore.

nom=de=plume October 10th 09 06:28 PM

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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.




I love logic. Try reading what I posted again. Are you or are you not proud
that the world thinks better of us? If so, then what diff does it make who
got what award. If not, why not?

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 10th 09 06:28 PM

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


Got news for you - she's not a she.



Got news for you - you're no better than Jim.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 10th 09 06:30 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:55:46 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the
world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been
case of recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.
You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.
Got news for you - she's not a she.

hesheit's got the logic often used by 'she's'


So does Jim Hertvik but I'm not positive yet that she is he. I'm waiting
for hesheit to explode. That'll give us better insight into the
personality. My candidates are hertvik, jps, and gould in that order.


Aren't you the Jr Detective.
Instead of worrying about her, try to clean-up your own act. Then it
wouldn't matter... she'd just be a fellow poster interested in boats.


I really am sorry I caused so much angst among some people. I guess the days
of taking people at face value is nearing an end.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 10th 09 06:31 PM

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"John H Rant" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:09:10 -0400, Jim wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.


You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.


I must have missed that comment. Imagine if Tina Fey were to do nom la
plumage. That would be hilarious. That's not to say that Plumage is not
funny without parody.
If harry endorses something, there must be something in it for him.


She didn't make that comment. She said, in effect,

'We should be proud of Obama because the Nobel Committe thinks so
highly of him.'

That is the same as saying,

'We should be proud of nomdeplum because Harry Krause thinks so highly
of her.

Both Harry's opinion and the Nobel Committee's opinion carry about the
same weight anymore.



You are really a Twisted Sister...err Brother... err whatever.


--
Nom=de=Plume



Jim October 10th 09 06:37 PM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.

You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.




I love logic. Try reading what I posted again. Are you or are you not proud
that the world thinks better of us? If so, then what diff does it make who
got what award. If not, why not?

What?

Jim October 10th 09 06:46 PM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.

You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.

Got news for you - she's not a she.



Got news for you - you're no better than Jim.

You don't know either one of us, sweetie.
It's amazing how much you and Harry are alike.
Be careful of that temper. It'll give you away.

John H Rant October 10th 09 07:14 PM

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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:37:03 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.

You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.




I love logic. Try reading what I posted again. Are you or are you not proud
that the world thinks better of us? If so, then what diff does it make who
got what award. If not, why not?

What?


Tom's wrong. That can *only* be a female.

thunder October 10th 09 07:14 PM

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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:28:00 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:


I love logic. Try reading what I posted again. Are you or are you not
proud that the world thinks better of us? If so, then what diff does it
make who got what award. If not, why not?


Be kind, you are talking to a dying dinosaur. The white male, the base
of the GOP, once ruled this land, but no longer. The demographics are
clear. If it doesn't change, the GOP is dead. Just look at some of the
results of the 2006 Congressional Elections.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1891803/posts

The GOP can survive, but only if it becomes more inclusive, a doubtful
proposition.

http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/
reviving_the_republican_party

John H Rant October 10th 09 07:24 PM

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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:14:30 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:28:00 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:


I love logic. Try reading what I posted again. Are you or are you not
proud that the world thinks better of us? If so, then what diff does it
make who got what award. If not, why not?


Be kind, you are talking to a dying dinosaur. The white male, the base
of the GOP, once ruled this land, but no longer. The demographics are
clear. If it doesn't change, the GOP is dead. Just look at some of the
results of the 2006 Congressional Elections.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1891803/posts

The GOP can survive, but only if it becomes more inclusive, a doubtful
proposition.

http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/
reviving_the_republican_party


The GOP, unless it can figure out a way to capture the hearts and
minds of illegal aliens, will most likely not survive. Once the
liberals can figure out a way to grant amnesty to the illegals, they
will have won the battle. We will have a one-party system. At that
point, it will be 'press one for English', or learn Spanish.

Jim October 10th 09 07:27 PM

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John H Rant wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:37:03 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic
I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that
the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case of
recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.

You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.



I love logic. Try reading what I posted again. Are you or are you not proud
that the world thinks better of us? If so, then what diff does it make who
got what award. If not, why not?

What?


Tom's wrong. That can *only* be a female.


It's too early to call.

CalifBill October 10th 09 07:54 PM

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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world
was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.

I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic


I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been case
of recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.



Sure is nice to be a proud American... isn't it.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I am proud of America, not real happy with the political leaders for a lot
of years.



CalifBill October 10th 09 07:56 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:55:46 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:58:33 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:38 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have
far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the
world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was
unintentional.
I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

--Vic

I don't know if he deserved it or not. He got it. We should be proud
that the Nobel committee thinks so highly of him. That hasn't been
case of recent presidents.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Maybe it was really the NoBalls award.
You gotta love her logic.

"We should all be proud of nomdeplum because Harry thinks shes the
cat's meow."

That would be a worthy idea except that Harry's 'blessing' now carries
about as much weight as that of the Nobel Committee.
Got news for you - she's not a she.


hesheit's got the logic often used by 'she's'


So does Jim Hertvik but I'm not positive yet that she is he. I'm waiting
for hesheit to explode. That'll give us better insight into the
personality. My candidates are hertvik, jps, and gould in that order.


Can not be jps as the posts are not including foul language.



Roger October 11th 09 05:03 AM

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Don White wrote:

Aren't you the Jr Detective.
Instead of worrying about her, try to clean-up your own act. Then it
wouldn't matter... she'd just be a fellow poster interested in boats.



Funny. He's a better "Jr Detective" than you and he doesn't rely on
emails from his master!

Tosk October 11th 09 01:52 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
In article ,
says...

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Unbe****ingleavable...

Tosk October 11th 09 01:55 PM

The Peace Prize Second Place Finishers...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before.


Because our "new" friend Nom de Harry just made it up... Does that
surprise you?

Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic





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