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On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too
funny......
it's a wonder he is still around......

Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending
challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care.

He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name
calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be.

I'll give you a clue:
The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that
France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn
from.

Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can
expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing
to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false
info that fits their predisposed leanings.

Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it
works so well.

I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in
France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city
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so you're arguing for gun control?

i agree. let's ban guns


Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be
able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt.
My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.

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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:

The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

The only question I have is why do you think getting the government
involved will make that any cheaper or better?

These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the
$300 hammer.
Maybe if you could shoot all the lobbyists and lawyers it might work
but you would still have all those gold bricking congressmen trying to
get more federal bucks into their district.


The government is already involved (regulations and Medicare) and as for
my opinion, the government can do a pretty good job sometimes.

The insurance industry seems to be an unnecessary step in health care.
Why do we expect them to make a profit? What would happen if they
didn't exist?

capitalism is wonderful, but we don't expect the library or the fire
department to make a profit. Maybe health care is a service.

The founder of Craigslist went to talk to Wall Street a couple of years
ago. One of them asked Craig how he intended to "maximize his profit
stream." Craig told them he wasn't going to.

"I'm running a service, not a business." Maybe that is a good model for
a health care system.

Smart man, Craig.

It's the aerospace industry that brought you the $600 toilet seat and
the $300 hammer. Interestingly, carpenters buy titanium hammers for
almost $300 all the time.

Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be
able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt.
My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?

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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?


? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

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On Oct 6, 10:24*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:
The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. *France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

The only question I have is why do you think getting the government
involved will make that any cheaper or better?

because other countries where the govt is involved have better and
cheaper healthcare. it's something we can actually test


These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the
$300 hammer.

as opposed to the 50% decline in the stock market in the last year?
the right keeps pretending the free market is perfect. and that ain't
so.

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"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too
funny......
it's a wonder he is still around......

Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending
challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care.

He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name
calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be.

I'll give you a clue:
The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that
France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn
from.

Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can
expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing
to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false
info that fits their predisposed leanings.

Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it
works so well.

I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in
France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city
shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

so you're arguing for gun control?

i agree. let's ban guns


Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be
able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt.
My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.

You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id.

On 10/7/09 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
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On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too
funny......
it's a wonder he is still around......

Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending
challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care.

He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name
calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be.

I'll give you a clue:
The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that
France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn
from.

Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can
expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing
to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false
info that fits their predisposed leanings.

Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it
works so well.

I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in
France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city
shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

so you're arguing for gun control?

i agree. let's ban guns


Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be
able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt.
My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.

You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id.



You and herring still playing bend over to pick up the soap in the
showers at the marine golf course?


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Idiots All

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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:

The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

The only question I have is why do you think getting the government
involved will make that any cheaper or better?

These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the
$300 hammer.
Maybe if you could shoot all the lobbyists and lawyers it might work
but you would still have all those gold bricking congressmen trying to
get more federal bucks into their district.

If you think that $27 Tylenol in the hospitial is expensive just wait
until the government gets a hold of all of the health care.

On 10/7/09 8:01 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, wrote:

The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

The only question I have is why do you think getting the government
involved will make that any cheaper or better?

These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the
$300 hammer.
Maybe if you could shoot all the lobbyists and lawyers it might work
but you would still have all those gold bricking congressmen trying to
get more federal bucks into their district.

If you think that $27 Tylenol in the hospitial is expensive just wait
until the government gets a hold of all of the health care.


The "government" limits what it pays to a percentage of C&R, and no one
with a working brain is claiming the government's intent is to "get a
hold of all of the health care."




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Idiots All

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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.

"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?

? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.
I heard that a pump has really bad recoil whereas a semi-auto is
relatively civilized. Why do cops prefer pumps?