On Oct 6, 6:56*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too
funny......
it's a wonder he is still around......

Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending
challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care.

He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name
calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be.

I'll give you a clue:
The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. *France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that
France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn
from.

Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can
expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing
to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false
info that fits their predisposed leanings.

Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. *And it
works so well.

I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in
France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city
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so you're arguing for gun control?

i agree. let's ban guns

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On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too
funny......
it's a wonder he is still around......

Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending
challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care.

He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name
calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be.

I'll give you a clue:
The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy,
or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated
health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay.

You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that
France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn
from.

Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can
expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing
to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false
info that fits their predisposed leanings.

Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it
works so well.

I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in
France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city
shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

so you're arguing for gun control?

i agree. let's ban guns


Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be
able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt.
My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.

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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be
able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt.
My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?

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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?


? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.

"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?

? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.
I heard that a pump has really bad recoil whereas a semi-auto is
relatively civilized. Why do cops prefer pumps?

Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
news Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the
middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I
don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it
would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a
couple of years ago.

"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?

? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.
I heard that a pump has really bad recoil whereas a semi-auto is
relatively civilized. Why do cops prefer pumps?

More dependable.

On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?


? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.


What? Shoot defenseless skeet?

Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation?

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/

Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a
fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's
not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed.





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On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle
of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I
would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on
my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?


? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.


What? Shoot defenseless skeet?

Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation?

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/

Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine
shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that
much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed.


It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down,
but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot.

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On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
news

Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle
of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I
would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on
my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?


? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.


What? Shoot defenseless skeet?

Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation?

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/

Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine
shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that
much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed.


It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down,
but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot.


A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't
weigh much.


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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle
of
the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I
would
be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on
my
butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago.


"Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible?


? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up.

You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold
it. It will NOT knock you on your butt.
We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot
12 gauge.
Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and
they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you
everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in
general.


I know how, but it's pretty powerful. I'd imagine that I'd be pretty freaked
out having to shoot at someone, be in bare feet on a slippery floor, etc.
Besides, I don't weight that much (or so I'm claiming).

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